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All,

Thanks in advance for any help you can provide.

I've done very basic overclocking in the past (i.e. changing the CPU multiplier) however for this setup I wanted to go a bit further. Currently I have a Gigabyte GA-LMT-USB3 board, but I know that's not going to cut it to get even to moderate overclocking on 8-core proc.

CPU: AMD FX 8310
Fan/Heatsink: Hyper 212 EVO
Current Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-LMT-USB3 running latest (only) BIOS

Now reading online, I've heard many people take this proc up to 4.5 Ghz. I wasn't even trying for that - I was just hoping to get around the 3.9-4.0 Ghz range and get a nice 500 Mhz boost.

I don't have a ton of cash to spend on a new board, but I was highly considering the following: ASUS M5A99FX PRO R2.0

The reviews on this board have been pretty good (4/5 stars, 500+ reviews on Newegg.) but just wanted to get the forum's thoughts on if this board would be good enough for that mid-level overclocking, or will this board not cut it either.

I've always been an ASUS and Gigabyte fan, but if anyone else has a thought, I'm open to suggestions.

Thanks in advance for any recommendations!
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That Asus board is suitable for OC'ing that CPU to 4Ghz (you may be able to reach higher than that). The 8310 is supported as of BIOS revision 2501 so be aware of that.

Just remember to keep an eye not only on your CPU temps, but the VRM as well, especially when you start stacking on the volts. Now you just need to cross your fingers and hope you won the Silicon Lottery.
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Wizardonthejob,

Thanks for the reply.

Is there a recommended process that you'd go through on making this overclock? (seems like you know about some key concerns already when it comes to this config...)
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Wizardonthejob,

Thanks for the reply.

Is there a recommended process that you'd go through on making this overclock? (seems like you know about some key concerns already when it comes to this config...)

Well not just this config, but most configs. It is important not to get tunnel vision when overclocking. There are may components on a motherboard besides the CPU that heat up even more as a result of overclocking including the VRM mosfets and chokes, Northbridge and Southbridge, even memory. Good motherboards are built with quality materials to handle the extra heat and good strong heatsinks to facilitate the dissipation of that heat. But they still have their limits.

As arbitrary a number as is it may seem, I don't like anything in my computer going over 75c. Depending on the motherboard, most temperatures can be monitored with sensors. For the ones that cant, a thermal gun is awesome. Link: http://amzn.com/B002YE3FS4 One of the biggest problems I have seen in years past is when people change from a stock air cooler to something like an AIO closed loop cooler. Sure, it helps the CPU, but if the rest of the components around the CPU (VRM, Northbridge) aren't benefitting from the supplemental air provided by the old CPU cooler, they will just heat up faster and add to the CPU heat. If the AIO is good enough to keep up with the CPU, the first thing to go is usually the VRM. It's why it's important to make sure you have some kind of air passing through those heatsinks still.

As for overclocking, the basics are simple. Raise the multiplier a notch or two and run some tests. Prime95 is good for this. Run for 15 minutes or so. If nothing fails and your computer doesn't reboot/shutoff AND you haven't reached any thermal limits, go back to BIOS and raise it a little bit more. Do this until something fails. Once that happens try bumping the core voltage up, say .05v at a time. Do this until you find a stable center. It can take some experimenting to get right. Never go above 1.5v on the core unless you are an experienced overclocker and have extensive cooling (watercooling on the CPU, at least some form of air on the VRM etc.) You should be able to find a happy place below 1.45v.

Once you have found your happy place, run Prime95 for an hour or so (the pro's prefer 24hrs, but that's for rock solid stability). This will confirm that you (likely) wont have problems doing something more simple like gaming.
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Two other questions that you all would be an expert at.

Looking up the ASUS M5A99FX PRO R2.0 motherboard reviews, many people said that it has an issue with the Hyper 212 EVO fan (which I already have) in that the heatsink covers the first DIMM slot too closely. Many have recommended using "low profile" memory to get around this.

1. Does this severely hamper any overclocking to user low profile memory? I know LP RAM typically runs at 1.35V instead of 1.5V, but if I'm taking my 8310 processor to 4Ghz (which isn't a whole lot), is this memory still a limiting factor? (Considering using a good brand, like Crucial Ballistix)

2. If I do buy low profile memory, and I'm planning to have 16GB, is it more efficient to use 4x4GB or 2x8GB? Or again, is it such little difference that it doesn't matter?

Thanks again to all for your guidance!
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1) If you have "tall" memory sticks and the cooler covers the first slot and has clearance issue, you simply can't use RAM on that slot. So it's always preferable to buy LP RAM. RAM sticks with "horns", other things sticking out of them are just for showing off and can potentially create clearance issues with any heatsink that arrives over the slots.

2) There are plenty of 1.5 LP RAM sticks. As a matter of fact, many motherboards don't support 1.35v sticks. 2x8 is always preferable. Less stress on IMC and higher chances to run T1.

About stablity testing, read my signature and then this:

http://www.overclock.net/t/1500294/why-some-people-dont-like-prime95/60#post_22531179

My alternative is: IBT AVX Very High for quick testing. 12h Prime95 for final confirmation.
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