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I see no reason to do anything. Your component temps are quite good as it is.

You can learn the basics of case airflow and how much is needed in "Ways to Better Cooling" thread linked in my sig. 1st post is index, click on topics of interest to see them.

 

But those temps are with the case completely open. It overheats with the case closed up, and that's because the case has no fans.

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But those temps are with the case completely open. It overheats with the case closed up, and that's because the case has no fans.
Missed that bit. redface.gif
What are the temps with case closed?
What are temps with stock case fans?

Not sure what GPU is in there, but it looks like it has at least 2x 90mm fans .. and CPU has one .. meaning case needs at least 3x 90mm intake fans to just flow the same amount of air as components. Really, 4x 90mm are needed to flow enought air to keep most of the component heated exhaust from recycling into and heating up the cool air going to components.

I have to agree with phyclum, a new case is probably the best option. Cost of 4x decent fans is what .. $25-35.00?
$30-40.00 will buy a basic case with a couple of 120mm fans. Add another $10.00 and options become much better.

A half decent case will be necessary for any future upgrades .. making it a long term investment.
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I love my OCN brother psyclum (I think that OCN would suck if he weren't here to be honest), but I don't care that he doesn't agree. I am telling you what I know. I am a little offended and insulted that all you could say was "But psyclum doesn't agree". It's like, "ok fine, if you refuse to listen to anyone else, then he's the only one who should be helping you.".

Just try what I'm telling you. That's all you have to do. Just try it. Front intake and rear exhaust. Try it. Prove me wrong. It's not going to kill you.
Sorry, I didn't want to.
Actually, I wanted him to explain more so I can make a choice between your two suggestions.
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But those temps are with the case completely open. It overheats with the case closed up, and that's because the case has no fans.
That's right.
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Missed that bit. redface.gif
What are the temps with case closed?

 

Hot enough that the computer shuts down unexpectedly, as he said in his original post.

 

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What are temps with stock case fans?

 

It doesn't have any. The photos show this pretty clearly.

 

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Not sure what GPU is in there,

 

The GTX 970 4G, as listed in his original post.

 

Anyway... rhayy: yeah this case is 10 years old which is WAY too old for a computer system like this. Computers simply generate much more heat than they did 10 years ago.

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post #26 of 54
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Hot enough that the computer shuts down unexpectedly, as he said in his original post.


It doesn't have any. The photos show this pretty clearly.


The GTX 970 4G, as listed in his original post.

Anyway... rhayy: yeah this case is 10 years old which is WAY too old for a computer system like this. Computers simply generate much more heat than they did 10 years ago.
Okay, I missed all his details. Guess that's what happens when I post before coffee in injected. rolleyes.gif

I only see two options,
Run with the side open
Get a new case
post #27 of 54
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Missed that bit. redface.gif
What are the temps with case closed?
I don't know. I've never checked them before.
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What are temps with stock case fans?
I bought the case without fans.
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Not sure what GPU is in there, but it looks like it has at least 2x 90mm fans .. and CPU has one
The GPU is an MSI GTX 970 Gaming 4G.
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.. meaning case needs at least 3x 90mm intake fans to just flow the same amount of air as components. Really, 4x 90mm are needed to flow enought air to keep most of the component heated exhaust from recycling into and heating up the cool air going to components.
I can only put 80mm fans.
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I have to agree with phyclum, a new case is probably the best option. Cost of 4x decent fans is what .. $25-35.00?
$30-40.00 will buy a basic case with a couple of 120mm fans. Add another $10.00 and options become much better.

A half decent case will be necessary for any future upgrades .. making it a long term investment.
I came here to know how to coolthe case and the best option is maybe to change it. Good to know.
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post #28 of 54

If you end up feeling that you'd rather not do the work of moving into a new case, then just max out your intake and exhaust fan positions with the best fans you can buy and I would bet you that you'd be good to go. Like I said, your system doesn't generate much heat. The heat that it DOES generate though is too much for NOT having any case fans.

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post #29 of 54
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Now I'm thinking of reducing the size of the computer: getting a 1155 micro atx motherboard (if there are still available), a new case and some fans without spending too much. That is going to cost me a little bit more than a few fans.
Anyway thank you everyone, and sorry again TwoCables.
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post #30 of 54
you'all do know that this side panel funnel is there for a reason, dont ya?

Normally it sits just above the stock CPU cooler to provide fresh outside air and to minimise in-case air re-circulation.

With these types of "Castle Peak" or "Shenzhen" cases, you have to stick to either stock cooler or a top-down cooler or something like a zalman cnps pancake cooler , because that is how they were designed to be used.
Add a (80/92/120mm?) intake fan between the side panel & the funnel ... it should allow for that since it has a filter and the length of the funnel is variable.. it slides out/extends upto 80 mm longer (if i remember correctly)
Make sure the funnel sits snug over the stock cooler.
Add a couple of exhaust fan to the rear to get rid of the hot air the stock cooler blows all over the board.

Getting enough fresh air to a powerful GPU becomes difficult.. it might require being a bit creative with cardboard to get fresh air from the front bottom, unless there is a second vent in the side panel.

The alternative to doing the above is getting out the tin snips & the dremel or.... buy a new case smile.gif
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