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post #11 of 27
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If you are going to upgrade to Skylake and you want to spend some money I'd wait on the Skylake E release if all the predictions are right that should be some time late next year-ish? No promises as my info is all rumors but yeah. I'd also say your OC to 4.2 is pretty solid as well.

That all said, don't be afraid to liquid cool your PC's parts. Plenty of online guides to go through and a lot of reading and a few quick google searches for non corrosive / non damaging coolant should do the job just fine. EKWB should make a block that fits the titan. I don't know about other companies because I'm just getting back into this myself.

yeah i think the wait would be a better option as the 4700K is a good CPU, how much better will the skylake E be?

Yeah i jst seen this mite be worth getting for my top Titan to cool it as that get the hottest http://www.scan.co.uk/products/evga-hybrid-vga-hydro-cooler-for-reference-nvidia-geforce-gtx-titan-x-(all-in-one)-copper-base-120mm
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Have you thought about upgrading to Haswell-E

i play games most so would Haswell E help?
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i wouldnt say its worth it from 4770k to 6700k, but i myself am thinking about those 6 core 5820k's lol
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All personal opinion but not worth the upgrade to me. The CPU is not going to help you run many games any faster and the only upsides are some motherboard features that are not in my mind worth the upgrade to a pricey new model motherboard, new memory and the 6700k. I just upgraded from a 3770k to a 4790k and regret this upgrade as the 3770k was easier to overclock and more stable (basically I really wanted the Limited Ed. White Sabertooth Z97 Mark S motherboard). Maybe if you do a lot of intensive rendering and the like the 6700k might be of benefit but for gaming and everyday tasks I personally don't see it and regret upgrading even to the 4790K. I would wait until next year as most technical pubs are predicting major TOCK changes in CPU architecture as AMD is going for the crown and Intel is not going to give in. Supposedly in Q3 of next year Intel is coming out with CPUs geared towards high end desktops, the Skylake-E and Broadwell-E lines. And from what I read AMD's Zen and Zen+ architecture may well give Intel high end desktop CPUs a run for their money (not unprecedented, I recall building a desktop with the fastest CPU going (I think it was the single core AMD FX-61 but my memory is not what it once was. I also clearly recall that expensive AMD becoming outdated overnight when Intel announced a dual core architecture. Moreover FinFET technolgy is moving from supercomputers to GPUs next year and some informed sources (their are many as FinFET has been around for awhile and actually used in supercomputers the last few years [thanks in large part to research by Samsung Semiconduters Global and their research to work out some bugs). So AMD's claim of their next round of GPU's being about twice as fast as Fiji, while exaggerated, may not be that far off base and the number could be anywhere from a 50% to 80% increase in speed of GPUs using this semiconductor technology. There are now three companies with the abillity to fabricate in bulk for both Nvidia and AMD (Nvidia has signed up with TMSC, a company out of Taiwan and AMD I am not sure of but I do know Intel is one of the two other companies with fabbing facilities. My point regarding the GPUs is that if the potential speed increases (which engineers can get a handle on with pages of calculations as this is not an in house architect change but exists in the real world) work out (will depend on fabrication issues) faster CPUs may be required to keep up. Bottom line in my personal opinion Intel has been releaseing a lot of CPUs but mainly ticks. Not sure if you would notice a difference between your CPU and a 6700K for gaming and the 4770k and the motherboard differences are a good step in the right direction but not worth leaping for (my personal opinion). However if you are an early adopter and into overkill I salute you (I know I am) and if you can afford it why not. As for the rest I am just someone else on a forum and urge you to check out some tech journals (not PC Mag, the only FinFET article I ever read in that was a bit non-sensical). As for CPUs it also seems ATI's spinoff of the GPU unit may be a good sign and give them more leeway to work with their fabricators as AMD is very serious about Zen and how fast it is could dictate the company's future. Just one persons opinion. Good luck. (Instead of going Skylake I spent extra on GPUs and a G-Sync monitor and once again the 4770K is not going to bottleneck anything out there (well maybe four Titans and other configurations that are simply a waste of money given the scaling. I thought I was overkill with 2 GTX 980 Ti's but untrue on Acers 1440p, 144hz G-Sync Predator (one card would not be satisfying to me at least).
post #15 of 27
yeah i have the 4770k and it doesnt bottleneck anything i do i even left it at stock because theres no reason to overclock it unless im trying to win high scores in benchmarks. it wouldnt bottleneck 2 titan x's .

going for a 6700k would be pretty much the same thing you can get a good overclock on 4770k to match the 6700k,if you upgraded i say go for a 6 core or better, otherwise its not worth it.
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In every day usage? Indistinguishable.
In benchmarks, Skylake seems to be anywhere from 5-10% better than Haswell in many tests.

I upgraded from a 4770k to a 6700k myself.

Overall i gained 100mhz, 15% faster in encoder, ~12% faster in games and my temps dropped by about 25c with the same cooling and volts.

You shouldn't use slow RAM; ddr4 2133c15 is terrible. Get 3000c15 as a baseline. It matters.

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yeah i have the 4770k and it doesnt bottleneck anything i do i even left it at stock because theres no reason to overclock it unless im trying to win high scores in benchmarks. it wouldnt bottleneck 2 titan x's .

Well, that depends on what you're doing. If you're running Heaven at 4k with tesellation and MSAA maxed, then sure it wouldn't come close to limiting performance. I'm bottlenecked all day by a 6700k @4.6ghz because i play CPU bound games. At the moment WoW, KSP and SC2. All of them have the same min FPS on a 960 and a Titan X even with this CPU because of singlethreaded performance limits - the single Titan X would drop below ~1/3'rd load; there are many games like them
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post #17 of 27
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Thanks for all the replies guys been very helpful.

i think im going to wait it out and buy a hybrid cooler for my top T-X to keep it nice and cool as the bottom one dose not get that hot.
Top is 75oc under load.
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Not something I would suggest in general 4770k to 6700k. A lot of benches showed the 4790k vs 6700k even trading blows depending on the game. However, you are talking about Titans X SLI and needing a new motherboard anyway. So if it were me and I was buying a mobo anyways I would go skylake.

So many of us on this site upgrade/sidegrade just for fun though. smile.gif
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Unless you really want a newer motherboard for specific features, don't bother just wait 2 more generations. You won't be able to even notice the difference.
    
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