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Alright so I am building my first build so I am unsure of the orientation of my fans and if I have too many per say. ** I have read OCN Daves Air Cooling which is where I got this basic knowledge **

Case: Thermaltake Core v71
Heatsink: Noctua NH-u14s
GPU: Gigabyte Windforce 7950

Here is an example of what the case air flow looks like according to TT Thermaltake Core v71 Example (Click to show)

Front: Intake 3 x 120mm High CFM (Since open area where case will be figured better to use CFM focused)
Top: Intake 3 x 120mm High CFM (Chose intake to bring cool air onto the ram and top of MB and some air onto back side. My HDDs will be on back just like in picture, its the light blue on back)
Bottom: 2 x 120mm Static Pressure Intake
Rear: 120mm Static pressure Focused
CPU Cooler: Intake from right side exhaust through left side
PSU: Exhaust downwards.

Total Fans : 11 (8 intake, 1 exhaust, 2 cpu cooler)
I haven't gotten any specific fans yet just know what type to look for.

So... what am I doing wrong? Heh. Biggest concern is that air won't be able to escape with all of those as intake. Also if I have the fan on left side of CPU cooler as exhaust
straight into the read 120mm fan is that going to cause problems?


Thanks ahead for any info! thumb.gif
post #2 of 26
remove the roof fans and remove the floor fans. switch the front fans to static pressure fans and the rear exhaust to CFM fan then you'd be in good shape biggrin.gif
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Originally Posted by psyclum View Post

remove the roof fans and remove the floor fans. switch the front fans to static pressure fans and the rear exhaust to CFM fan then you'd be in good shape biggrin.gif
So only use 3 front and 1 rear? What will I do with all that top space? rolleyes.gif

Is that really enough air coming in though, especially with no top fans hitting the vram? I figured components got hotter than that. Not saying you are wrong I just don't know and want to make sure lol.

Final question: If I wanted to have all of those fan slots filled for aesthetic purposes, since I have a huge side window, what would be best config for a case like that?

Thanks! biggrin.gif
post #4 of 26
Airflow is really not a cookie cutter solution.

It will be case by case dependent ( not computer case )

What do you want in your build? (Silence, power ect ) pc components affect it, layout.... Ect

Cfm fans imo are useless. Stick with good "rad fans" generally you want more in then out. One of my pcs has over 40 fans...... I have 1 exhaust
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post #5 of 26
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Ok, I will stick with the high static pressure fans then, thank you!

I am just going for silence since it will be the loudest item in my room next to a 30 dBa ceiling fan which I hardly hear. PC Components below and case layout is similar to a pic in first post.
Computer Build (Click to show)
[PCPartPicker part list](http://pcpartpicker.com/p/LyLDYJ)

Intel Core i7-6700K 4.0GHz Quad-Core Processor
Noctua NH-U14S 55.0 CFM CPU Cooler (Push/Pull Configuration)
Asus MAXIMUS VIII HERO ATX LGA1151 Motherboard
G.Skill TridentZ Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2800 Memory
Samsung 950 PRO 256GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive
2x Western Digital BLACK SERIES 3TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive
Gigabyte Radeon HD 7950 3GB Video Card
Thermaltake Core V71 ATX Full Tower Case
[EVGA 850W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply

It will have a lot of open space at the moment but I will move to water cool it later which is why I went with a larger case. I am also not overclocking anything until then as well. Going with the rad fans will save me money now which is good. I will have to buy all the fans in the long run so I wasn't sure if it would be detrimental to the cooling if I just bought them now and put in the case.
post #6 of 26
I would use all front and 1 bottom intake with rear and only the back top exhaust .. possibly no top fans at all. With intake fans that can move air against resistance (grills, filters, etc) exhaust fans are often not even needed. Problem with top exhaust fans is they pull the air up, meaning the heated air from GPU is pulled up and usually ends up pre-heating the air going to CPU cooler.
post #7 of 26
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Alright, i'm thinking of using the Noctua NF-F12 PWM for the 120's on front and 1 bottom intake as you mentioned. Good static pressure looks like and decent cfm. Use the Noctua NF-A15 for the CPU Cooler and rear exhaust. Have any better recommendations?

Is it a bad idea to take the fan apart to paint the fins?

Lastly, if I wanted to get for aesthetic looks and use all fans what would you do to make sure its maximizing air flow?
post #8 of 26
they make an "indrustrial " fan it is all gray or black ( same fan )

they are decent fans,

also there are ALL black gentle typhoons ( darkside ) both 1850 and 2150 ( even 1850 pwm apearantly they are now ONLY pwm - the 1850 models ) ! that are out for other options for you ! ( PPCs sells them )
http://www.performance-pcs.com/darkside-gentle-typhoon-performance-radiator-fan-2150rpm-68cfm-black-edition.html

http://www.performance-pcs.com/darkside-gentle-typhoon-performance-radiator-fan-550-1850rpm-58cfm-black-edition-pwm.html

just for some further education i want to show you this !

https://martinsliquidlab.wordpress.com/2013/02/18/why-static-pressure-max-flow-specs-are-poor-measures-of-fan-performance/

this will help you understand fans, please note that pq charts are almost NEVER supplied/made

but i dont want you seeing some of the outlandish claims some of these manufactures make and thinking you picked the right one

Noctura is a great fan company, so dont think i am telling you not to use their stuff
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Have you looked at the V51 instead, is there a specific reason you want the V71?
 
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post #10 of 26
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they make an "indrustrial " fan it is all gray or black ( same fan ) Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)
they are decent fans,

also there are ALL black gentle typhoons ( darkside ) both 1850 and 2150 ( even 1850 pwm apearantly they are now ONLY pwm - the 1850 models ) ! that are out for other options for you ! ( PPCs sells them )
http://www.performance-pcs.com/darkside-gentle-typhoon-performance-radiator-fan-2150rpm-68cfm-black-edition.html

http://www.performance-pcs.com/darkside-gentle-typhoon-performance-radiator-fan-550-1850rpm-58cfm-black-edition-pwm.html

just for some further education i want to show you this !

https://martinsliquidlab.wordpress.com/2013/02/18/why-static-pressure-max-flow-specs-are-poor-measures-of-fan-performance/

this will help you understand fans, please note that pq charts are almost NEVER supplied/made

but i dont want you seeing some of the outlandish claims some of these manufactures make and thinking you picked the right one

Noctura is a great fan company, so dont think i am telling you not to use their stuff
I read that and now I am not too sure how you are supposed to choose a fan other than word of mouth from someone else if you can't truly rely on statistics. Or I think the intention was not they are all lies just that they are all non real world applications?
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Have you looked at the V51 instead, is there a specific reason you want the V71?
Well, I am going to water cool it later down the road. Plus I already bought it. I found it at microcenter for $50 after a mail in rebate in perfect condition so I couldn't pass that up since I was already looking at the series.


I was curious about taking the fan apart because I am thinking of a black/orange color scheme and wanted to paint the fins orange instead of just load the case up with orange led fans and calling it a day.
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