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i did that i had to prove that they were dead at the time, at my expense at first once i gave the bank proof that in no way that they are open for business along with being unable to contact them for two weeks .registered letters ect. i got back the money i had to lay out to prove it , but i didnt see a dime* of it for 3-6 months after the first worker quitting thing . * money spent at frozen at the time and money to show they were dead
Atlest in the end you got the money back, and it is not like they will send you the items you ordered anyways. Yes it is a pain in arse, but you did your part to the protect yourself, from this point on it is the business owner problem, not yours.
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You seem to assume everybody is American, or all other countries abide by American laws. I'm not, and they don't.

I'm German. Living in America, at the current time. I've also lived in Russia.

The consumer protection laws do not just apply to America. America is actually quite far behind in the consumer protection laws.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Consumer_protection#Consumer_law

I'm Colombian. Living in Colombia. I'm also a lawyer. It really rubs me the wrong way when people presume that their limited knowledge is actually universal, and that people who assume this also seem to believe that they are smart and everybody else isn't.
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I'm Colombian. Living in Colombia. I'm also a lawyer. It really rubs me the wrong way when people presume that their limited knowledge is actually universal, and that people who assume this also seem to believe that they are smart and everybody else isn't.

You hate people presuming/assuming yet you assumed I was American.

I've lived in 20+ countries in my life so far, some with no formal consumer protection laws and was still able to get protection against these types of events. Most banks around the world will work with you in such events and help you get your money back. I know with first hand experience, hazards of traveling to some of the places I have been to.

Lack of trying is no excuse. And just because there is little to no consumer protection laws in place doesn't mean things are hopeless.
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Bank with a reputable bank, international if possible, and if you claim something fraudulent happened in your account, you should see a reimbursement within a day or two for the amount of the transaction plus applicable interest and fees. Afterwards, you'll receive a letter asking about the situation, any additional information you can provide, provide some sort of proof if you have it, etc. If you don't fill out the information and send it back within a 2-3 week period, then the money that was credited to your account will be debited back out of your account. The bank, or other institution, will investigate everything up to a 90 day period, if indeed they see fraud, then nothing else needs to be done. Any financial institution should process a fraudulent report this way, give you benefit of the doubt, reimburse you immediately, then ask for more information regarding the claim so they can investigate it for themselves.

I've been working in the financial industry for almost 20 years, and I've worked with many different banks and broker/dealers around the world, and everyone should handle the matter in the same way. Fraud is a very serious allegation that no one takes lightly. If the owner of FrozenCPU has a drug problem and gets arrested because of it, that sentence will be nothing when compared to the sentencing he'll get if he's charged for committing fraud that affected people all over the world. This situation is different, but in other ways it's similar (http://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/nine-fifa-officials-and-five-corporate-executives-indicted-racketeering-conspiracy-and). This is about the sentencing of 9 FIFA Officials regarding corruption. Point is that it all boils down to intentionally depriving another of property or honest services via mail or wire communication, otherwise known as mail and wire fraud. If you feel like you were taken advantage of, you lost money and you were never reimbursed, then click on the Report a Crime link on the right hand side of that link and report it yourself. Everyone in the world who gives money to another for goods and services has rights.
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U Wanna know what went down, visit this link

Repost This Link Many Many Times


http://www.overclock.net/t/1540656/official-frozencpu-shuts-its-doors/650_50

This is exactly what went down,

Ik cause its in my state, i saw most of the insane drama go down, on 4 or more forums,

Anyway Hope This Helps

Beware of their past, just sayin
post #76 of 78
I can't bring my self to buy from these guys even if they are in business. Based on what happen and how it was handled, It's super damaging to people's trust.
It would have been better if they started over with a new name, new site ex. The fact it hasn't been done shows just how little they know about PR.

I use to order a lot from them but from what I heard happen to customers and how little was done for them it sends a big, nope to making future purchases.
Edited by DigitrevX - 5/7/16 at 1:31am
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I remember ordering a MCP655 from them. It came without the rubber washer between housing and pump. They not only refused to send me the missing piece, but refused to take a return/exchange without mechanical issues. They lost me as a customer at that point. Sticking with Performance PC's. That's a business run for the customer, not for the owner.
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I've placed two small orders with them in the last month. Just building a new loop and all the big / important stuff I've bought from PPC. Only reason I placed any orders with them is they've been so great in the past and I was curious.

First order for some odd fittings I forgot went off without a hitch. Second order they didn't have something and I was called and refunded.

There stock isn't nearly as good as it used to be but I'll probably be buying fluid/small things from them from here on out. I'm in DC and the shipping is just so fast. Performance consistently ships slowly to me despite only being in Florida. To the point where it takes them two days from buying to actually ship things. For important stuff I'll still order from them while this is blowing over but it seems like FCPU is making a small comeback.

I totally get if you were burned by them not ever ordering again but I've yet to have a bad experience over like 10+ orders now over the years so yeah. Glad they are back and hope they stay.
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