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post #3531 of 7668
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Originally Posted by atomicus View Post

HUH, WHAT?! Are you suggesting that a company like Amazon, following a mass number of returns on a POS product that exhibits OBVIOUS faults, would think the solution to this is... "let's enrage our customers by removing our acclaimed and famous free returns policy rather than actually speaking to the manufacturer about this product we are stocking and consider removing it from our site unless they do something about the quality." Do you HONESTLY think that would make ANY sense WHATSOEVER... because it doesn't. Fortunately, they do the right thing 99% of the time and will review products if they get many returns on it (as happened with the XB270).

I am not talking about people taking advantage and returning perfectly acceptable monitors because there is a microscopic amount of bleed in one corner, but that accounts for a VERY small percentage of returns. I'm talking about countless monitors (in the case of the XB270/PG279) that are just junk, unfit for purpose and not worth their high price tag... horrendous bleed, stuck/dead pixels and dirt behind the screen. I went through 4 of them myself, so I know how awful they can be. You are NOT affected by my (or anyone's) ability to return this monitor for free... on the contrary, you would be far more seriously affected if we couldn't, given how that would take the pressure of the manufacturer's to step up their production quality and QC. Why do you think Acer have at least tried to do something with the XB271 and the new backlight assembly?? It does actually seem to have helped, albeit not in all cases, but they released that model very soon after the XB270, and I think it's pretty obvious they did so because of the mess that was the XB270. You will not find a single forum thread on any forum that doesn't have people up in arms about the issues with that and PG279Q.

When will people realise that the we, the CONSUMER, are in charge here?! You don't owe Amazon anything, you don't owe the monitor manufacturers anything. These are multi-million dollar companies because of US! They are selling a premium product at a premium price and that's why I expect to get... anything less, I will return it. Why would you bend over backwards and take anything less? WHY?? Makes no sense to me, none at all. 4 monitors, 7, 50... doesn't matter... they should stop selling it if it's clearly not up to standard.

Also, I fail to see how it's in any way a 'lax' policy... free returns has always been at the core of Amazon's business practice, and it's what has given me (and millions of others) the confidence to buy countless products from them over the years. There is no doubt they know this, so it's utterly beyond comprehension they would stop doing so... far more likely they'll just turn around to Acer and say "we will no longer stock your POS product, go away and improve it, then we'll talk."

rolleyes.gif

You know it is a POS product yet you keep buying? Your brain logic works in mysterious ways.
post #3532 of 7668
Well, a week in and there's new BLB on mine that definitely wasn't there before. The top left is what I'm talking about. It's shaped like a ribbon / band covering that part of the screen. The corner of the screen is darker and then the ribbon of BLB is a bit further away from the corner. If I press on the top left backside of the monitor or put pressure on it then it does dissipate. This leads me to believe it's either a bent panel or there's just too much pressure on it. Or both. It is not really visible in my normal daytime viewing or semi dim at night environment, only when looking at a black screen in a totally dark room. But it wasn't there before which has me worried. Assuming I keep it (3 weeks left for return) the second something else gets released without these BS flaws this POS will be out of here the next day. Such a great monitor otherwise I love it, what a shame.

post #3533 of 7668
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Originally Posted by GameFX View Post

And nothing useful coming out of the posts about people continuously trying to play a lottery with the monitor either and then stating 'oh crap I got a crappy monitor' - guess I'll send it back and hope for a better one


Then why not go read a different forum where people participate in discussions you enjoy....or....here's an idea--GO GET A JOB AND WORK FOR A LIVING, you LAZY BUM?

All that being said, kickass does have a valid point: this is the internet age, not pre-internet. We know these panels have horrible QA issues so people really should stop buying them until they are fixed to a point where it isn't a lottery anymore. Everyone should stop buying them.

But to say that people shouldn't complain about lotteries and bad panels on forum that is literally MADE for complaining is simply anal and satanic.

That being said, there really are too many rich people in this forum...(there, I'm complaining about rich people). While other people are in danger of losing their life or barely surviving...
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post #3534 of 7668
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Originally Posted by Falkentyne View Post

Then why not go read a different forum where people participate in discussions you enjoy....or....here's an idea--GO GET A JOB AND WORK FOR A LIVING, you LAZY BUM?

All that being said, kickass does have a valid point: this is the internet age, not pre-internet. We know these panels have horrible QA issues so people really should stop buying them until they are fixed to a point where it isn't a lottery anymore. Everyone should stop buying them.

But to say that people shouldn't complain about lotteries and bad panels on forum that is literally MADE for complaining is simply anal and satanic.

That being said, there really are too many rich people in this forum...(there, I'm complaining about rich people). While other people are in danger of losing their life or barely surviving...
Hah, rich or not there is still an expectation that an $800 monitor is going to be top notch and defect free, especially from the significant defects that plague both the PG and XB1. I think the problem is, most of us on here want this tech so badly and see that people on here are indeed getting good monitors eventually that they feel it is worth the time and patience to keep trying for an acceptable unit. My main motivation was the fact that the gaming experience is increased significantly.

And again, if people want to play the lottery and choose to return defective panels to these resellers, that is between them and the reseller. The reseller can cut them off if they so choose, that is there choice to keep replacing defective monitors. I don't see any point in people coming on here and doing nothing but ripping on the posters for explaining their challenges and seeking opinions on what to do. Ridiculous. Like you said, go read some where else...
post #3535 of 7668
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Originally Posted by jlp0209 View Post

Well, a week in and there's new BLB on mine that definitely wasn't there before. The top left is what I'm talking about. It's shaped like a ribbon / band covering that part of the screen. The corner of the screen is darker and then the ribbon of BLB is a bit further away from the corner. If I press on the top left backside of the monitor or put pressure on it then it does dissipate. This leads me to believe it's either a bent panel or there's just too much pressure on it. Or both. It is not really visible in my normal daytime viewing or semi dim at night environment, only when looking at a black screen in a totally dark room. But it wasn't there before which has me worried. Assuming I keep it (3 weeks left for return) the second something else gets released without these BS flaws this POS will be out of here the next day. Such a great monitor otherwise I love it, what a shame.


Heh... the same thing happened to mine. I've decided to try the lottery for the last time, since my retailer had one left with same-day delivery. So far it's very good, minimal BLB and the glow is silver at factory settings:
Code:
White level = 318.32 cd/m^2
Aprox. gamma = 2.39
Contrast ratio = 1365:1
19:42:17,959 White    Correlated Color Temperature = 6085K, DE 2K to locus = 12.2
19:42:17,959 White Correlated Daylight Temperature = 6083K, DE 2K to locus =  9.2
19:42:17,959 White        Visual Color Temperature = 5693K, DE 2K to locus = 11.8
19:42:17,959 White     Visual Daylight Temperature = 5813K, DE 2K to locus =  8.9



Doing first wave of calibration since it's been on for hours now. We'll see if it stays this way wink.gif
post #3536 of 7668
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Originally Posted by yellows View Post

Heh... the same thing happened to mine. I've decided to try the lottery for the last time, since my retailer had one left with same-day delivery. So far it's very good, minimal BLB and the glow is silver at factory settings:
Code:
White level = 318.32 cd/m^2
Aprox. gamma = 2.39
Contrast ratio = 1365:1
19:42:17,959 White    Correlated Color Temperature = 6085K, DE 2K to locus = 12.2
19:42:17,959 White Correlated Daylight Temperature = 6083K, DE 2K to locus =  9.2
19:42:17,959 White        Visual Color Temperature = 5693K, DE 2K to locus = 11.8
19:42:17,959 White     Visual Daylight Temperature = 5813K, DE 2K to locus =  8.9



Doing first wave of calibration since it's been on for hours now. We'll see if it stays this way wink.gif
Both of those photos look far better than mine. You aren't happy with the one on the right? Either one of yours is a winner in my eyes. If only I could be so lucky.
post #3537 of 7668
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Originally Posted by jlp0209 View Post

Both of those photos look far better than mine. You aren't happy with the one on the right? Either one of yours is a winner in my eyes. If only I could be so lucky.

It's the same monitor, the pictures were taken with different settings. On the left is default and on the right ISO 200 with "night" mode.

I took them now so I can compare what happens over time to confirm that this monitor can degrade... I really want this one to be a keeper, but my last one started good as well mad.gif
post #3538 of 7668
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Originally Posted by yellows View Post

It's the same monitor, the pictures were taken with different settings. On the left is default and on the right ISO 200 with "night" mode.

I took them now so I can compare what happens over time to confirm that this monitor can degrade... I really want this one to be a keeper, but my last one started good as well mad.gif
I see. Mine never started out as good as yours to begin with; there was some BLB that I could live with. I actually laughed when I saw the new BLB shaped like a ribbon around the corner of the monitor. This whole experience has been the gift from hell that keeps on giving. Why shouldn't my monitor come with a nice orange ribbon around it. Summarizes my entire experience so far.
post #3539 of 7668
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Originally Posted by jlp0209 View Post

I see. Mine never started out as good as yours to begin with; there was some BLB that I could live with. I actually laughed when I saw the new BLB shaped like a ribbon around the corner of the monitor. This whole experience has been the gift from hell that keeps on giving. Why shouldn't my monitor come with a nice orange ribbon around it. Summarizes my entire experience so far.

Are you using the Acer stand or a VESA mount? I'm trying to get as much info about the working conditions of monitors that degraded wink.gif
post #3540 of 7668
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Originally Posted by yellows View Post

Are you using the Acer stand or a VESA mount? I'm trying to get as much info about the working conditions of monitors that degraded wink.gif
Acer stand.
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