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Buy from Amazon and you have 30 days to assess this aspect.

Isn't that provided it's unopened?
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Isn't that provided it's unopened?

No, you can return for any reason as long as the item is undamaged (obviously damaged on arrival can be returned as faulty).
Edited by PCM2 - 2/22/16 at 9:49am
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No, you can return for any reason as long as the item is undamaged (obviously damaged on arrival can be returned as faulty).

Oh. It says otherwise on here :/ I read it as normal 14 Days DSR.

"As well as your statutory cancellation rights described above, you can return most products from the Amazon sites to Amazon within 30 days of receipt of the products if the products are complete and are in an unused and undamaged condition."

http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/help/customer/display.html/ref=orc_hp_s_retpol?ie=UTF8&nodeId=1161002#
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Yes, they put that there as a general catchall. Because they wouldn't accept returns for certain items that were used or opened (think consumable items, fragrances etc.) When it comes to monitors they will accept returns within 30 days for any reason. They go out of their way to keep the customer happy - you'll notice if you actually go through their returns centre that various reasons are listed for the return and some would never apply for opened items. I also know from experience and a vast number of users who have done exactly that.

Also the 14 day regulations are CCR, not DSR. But their policy goes beyond that. smile.gif
Edited by PCM2 - 2/22/16 at 12:32pm
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Good to know! I personally would only buy a monitor from amazon if it was on prime. I use SCAN or OCUK normally and they offer 14 days no worries which is a good amount of time to try a monitor out.

I am thinking of switching my Dell S2716DG for one of these, what do you think? Waste of money?

The pixel inversion on the Dell is the showstopper for me. I miss IPS colours too.
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The nice thing about Amazon is that they actually arrange the courier for you as well - and insuring monitors like this and returning at your own expense isn't exactly ideal. But since Amazon UK don't have this one in stock at the moment it would be up to you if you want to risk it. It's undoubtedly a nice monitor if you get a good sample and I think from what you've said you could enjoy it more than your S2716DG. So it's up to you really, but I reckon having to juggle with lots of returns and organising return postage (and possible insurance) yourself is far from ideal.

And yes, I'm with you on the inversion artifacts. They are a pain. For me personally that plus the grainy matte screen surface would lead me to prefer a good XB271HU sample for my own personal enjoyment. I wouldn't enjoy one with bad backlight bleed though. Having said that I plan on keeping this S2716DG that I'm reviewing, for now at least. I got it for £99 due to a pricing error so I'm hardly going to return it. wink.gif
Edited by PCM2 - 2/22/16 at 12:58pm
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Dell screen monitor is faster than XB271HU right?
How about the comparison about response time/input lag between the best TN vs IPS?
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Dell screen monitor is faster than XB271HU right?
How about the comparison about response time/input lag between the best TN vs IPS?

I think it's fair to assume the XB271HU is similar to the PG279Q in terms of responsiveness, so the S2716DG is technically faster in terms of pixel response times going by the excellent TFT Central assessment of each. But the latency (input lag) of the XB271HU is likely indistinguishable from the S2716DG and for most users so will the response times be. Some sensitive users who have tried both do seem to find the TN models a touch faster in practice. That makes sense given that the optimal response time (below which eye movement masks any 'trailing' from pixel responses) is around half the refresh time, so ~3.5ms for a 144Hz monitor. The AHVA models do rise a fair bit above this, whereas the S2716DG generally sticks fairly close or drops below. So yes, there is a potential advantage in that respect.
Edited by PCM2 - 2/22/16 at 1:08pm
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The nice thing about Amazon is that they actually arrange the courier for you as well - and insuring monitors like this and returning at your own expense isn't exactly ideal. But since Amazon UK don't have this one in stock at the moment it would be up to you if you want to risk it. It's undoubtedly a nice monitor if you get a good sample and I think from what you've said you could enjoy it more than your S2716DG. So it's up to you really, but I reckon having to juggle with lots of returns and organising return postage (and possible insurance) yourself is far from ideal.

And yes, I'm with you on the inversion artifacts. They are a pain. For me personally that plus the grainy matte screen surface would lead me to prefer a good XB271HU sample for my own personal enjoyment. I wouldn't enjoy one with bad backlight bleed though. Having said that I plan on keeping this S2716DG that I'm reviewing, for now at least. I got it for £99 due to a pricing error so I'm hardly going to return it. wink.gif

Thanks man. Returning the PG279Q's i had wasnt too much of a pain but that was because both were faulty so all i had to do was arrange a RMA number and drop off at a local newsagent. If you want to send back under DSR, you have to pay your own return postage and it wont be cheap for something so big. That plus no delivery service will insure a monitor against accidental damage during transit. The biggest issue with the PG279Q's for me was unacceptable IPS glow and backlight bleed. If it wasnt for that i would have loved it.

The pixel inversion on this Dell is very noticeable for me and ruins overall immersion. That and like you say the grainy coating is somewhat annoying. When i go to work and use a pair of Dell Ultrasharps, i come home and i really notice how washed out TN is. I paid £440 for it so also not a bad deal but nowhere near as good as £99....wow! Does yours suffer from pixel inversion too? Some people say they don't see it.
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I have only seen one S2716DG (this one) and it definitely has pixel inversion issues, or vertical interlacing pattern artifacts as I prefer to call them as it's a bit more descriptive. I have seen 3 ASUS PG278Qs and 2 XL2730Zs that suffered from them all the same (so 100% of models using this sort of panel). I think it's simply the case that some users don't notice them rather than them being absent on some units.
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