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post #6031 of 7841
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Originally Posted by Shardnax View Post

Color temp. isn't linked to the eColor management setting on my XB270HU. I figured it was the same for these, my bad if that isn't the case.
Yeah, there are two ways to set color temp on the XB271HU, the e-color management you can set the mode you want. And then also another menu for color temp and toggle on / off sRGB mode. I meant if you use a colorimeter to target 6500K we see that it really is warmer than what many are used to, sorry should've clarified. No way to target 6500K just within the XB271HU menu. I thought both monitors' OSD are pretty similar, no?

His monitor on the right is by far the more accurate monitor just by eye-balling a photo of it, I agree w/ you. The one on the left would be a pain to calibrate, if it can even be calibrated due to uniformity. My XB271HU when set to sRGB mode is not at all pink and blue tinted like do0f's.
post #6032 of 7841
@do0f: Here is a photo of mine at default sRGB mode for reference

post #6033 of 7841
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Originally Posted by jlp0209 View Post

Yeah, there are two ways to set color temp on the XB271HU, the e-color management you can set the mode you want. And then also another menu for color temp and toggle on / off sRGB mode. I meant if you use a colorimeter to target 6500K we see that it really is warmer than what many are used to, sorry should've clarified. No way to target 6500K just within the XB271HU menu. I thought both monitors' OSD are pretty similar, no?

His monitor on the right is by far the more accurate monitor just by eye-balling a photo of it, I agree w/ you. The one on the left would be a pain to calibrate, if it can even be calibrated due to uniformity. My XB271HU when set to sRGB mode is not at all pink and blue tinted like do0f's.
I think most monitors and TVs are set to cooler color temps by default. It's jarring switching from something like 9300K to 6500K, especially if you've got other displays running at cooler temps.

The latest revision OSD is almost identical as far as I know. I have an older version so I don't have options like 165hz OC or the additional color controls.
post #6034 of 7841
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Originally Posted by theringisMINE View Post

Regarding the 'vertical line down middle issue', taken from the official acer forum regarding someone who dealt with support: http://community.acer.com/t5/Predator-Monitors/Line-down-the-middle-overlapping-image/td-p/418751/page/21

Proprietary USB device.....
Most likely these devices are Chinese made and attainable to end users through indirect channels.
Something like this device.

http://www.yoycart.com/Product/5278188206/LCD_TV_development_tool/
(This can flash the Benq XL series monitors IF you can get the raw firmware files. Realtek support for the XL2730Z is UNKNOWN).

http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=48973
e.g. RT809F serial ISP Programmer
(This device DOES support the realtek chip like the one in the XL2730Z, but God knows if it supports stuff like the XB271HU or PG279Q.

I'm sure there are other devices.

Getting these units are the easy part. It's getting the FIRMWARE ITSELF THAT IS HARD. Try asking Asus or Acer for a raw PG279Q firmware or XB271HU. Just try. I dare you.

*edit*
newer software for rt809f:
http://www.ifix.net.cn/forum.php?mod=viewthread&tid=325&extra=page%3D1
Edited by Falkentyne - 8/6/16 at 3:22pm
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post #6035 of 7841
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Originally Posted by jlp0209 View Post

The uniformity on the left monitor is really awful, but that's just my opinion. I'd take a warmer hue any day over that and would've returned that one too.

Actually, neither panel has uniformity issues. It may be hard to see from the photo since the room is dark, but the panels were offset in a sort of V shape (because of size constraints on my desk) which creates the illusion of a slight color+brightness shift on the L side (the side closest to the lens).

I do think the experiment was empirical enough to draw a single obvious conclusion: all things being equal, with 2 identical models directly out of the box, one panel definitely tends more towards the yellow spectrum while the other one looks, imo, more natural. This is a complaint I've seen numerous times in this thread and it's definitely justified. Naturally this yellowness translated to all the other default color settings as well and was difficult to dial out without making to monitor look very dull and faded while still retaining the slightest tint of yellow.

But what looks white to me may not be white to someone else, color is definitely subjective to some extent. I actually prefer my monitors pretty bright, the range of around 70 to 80 is just right for me. I think those of you that set it down to 25-30 brightness are insane! Anyway, I'm very happy with the one I chose and that's all that should count for you guys too.

Btw, I made the mistake of first buying the Freesync version of this monitor because I got it at about half the price of this Gsync version. Not only did it have the yellow tint I take issue with, but it had some of the worst backlight bleed I've ever seen with a circular island of darkness in the center surrounded by a sea of glowing light. Went back immediately.

How terrible was this: biggrin.gif
post #6036 of 7841
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Originally Posted by jlp0209 View Post

Looks like he said both monitors were set to sRGB? This is a drastic difference between 2 identical monitors at the same settings, wow. Honestly the warmer one on the right is the one I'd keep. A goal of 6500K white point is warmer than what many people are used to.

Yes, both were set to SRGB (which locks to warm) and yes the difference is drastic. Of course I beg to differ on the subject of which looks best. wink.gif

As a point of reference, my previous monitor, a factory calibrated 30" Dell ultrasharp (which had both aRGB and sRGB modes) had none of this overly yellow nonsense, so it could just a matter of what I'm used to.
post #6037 of 7841
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@do0f: Here is a photo of mine at default sRGB mode for reference


Wow, from what I'm seeing yours actually looks a little pinker than my L one in sRGB mode, it's pretty close though. It definitely does not have the extreme yellow tint of my R monitor. Just to make sure my xb271 isn't influencing my perception I reloaded these pics on my Retina macbook, yep seeing the same thing.
post #6038 of 7841
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Originally Posted by do0f View Post

Wow, from what I'm seeing yours actually looks a little pinker than my L one in sRGB mode, it's pretty close though. It definitely does not have the extreme yellow tint of my R monitor. Just to make sure my xb271 isn't influencing my perception I reloaded these pics on my Retina macbook, yep seeing the same thing.

Yes your monitors were shot at an angle, that could explain it. So hard to tell what these monitors are in real life by looking at photos. Funny because in real life mine doesn't have any tint at sRGB. Doesn't matter anyway because I have it calibrated on "user" settings. Glad you are enjoying the monitor you decided to keep, that's all that matters.
post #6039 of 7841
Could've been my phone camera, took two more shots using video mode and then snapped screen shots. Regardless I do now notice the red hue in photos when I compare. The first photo is sGRB mode. Second photo is my 24/7 calibrated settings using my colorimeter @ 6500K target temperature. (OSD settings: R 98, G 99, B 99, brightness 33 for those who want to try settings).


post #6040 of 7841
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Originally Posted by jlp0209 View Post

Could've been my phone camera, took two more shots using video mode and then snapped screen shots. Regardless I do now notice the red hue in photos when I compare. The first photo is sGRB mode. Second photo is my 24/7 calibrated settings using my colorimeter @ 6500K target temperature. (OSD settings: R 98, G 99, B 99, brightness 33 for those who want to try settings).





Looks spot on post calibration! Nice job. My user settings are very similar at R 98, G 99, B 100, with brightness to taste.

With the yellowish model I returned I was dipping into the low-mid 80s in the R and G channels to get anything decent. Quite a difference.
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