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It came set to Normal so I've left it at that. Not in the Off or Extreme setting.

Would ULMB be better to use for fast response times/refresh/etc?

I don't think any ULMB monitor gives you OD control when in ULMB mode.

ULMB should only be used at 120 Hz or above (although no monitor actually has ULMB above 120 Hz, but some have similar technologies that go up to 144). At 100 Hz, it's simply not strobing fast enough to outperform non-strobing I guess. Instead of motion blur you get too much strobe crosstalk. It flickers too much at 100 Hz for most people, and most definitely below 100 Hz the flicker will be too much.
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It came set to Normal so I've left it at that. Not in the Off or Extreme setting.

Would ULMB be better to use for fast response times/refresh/etc?

Yes. Low motion blur on faster TN panels exhibit less or no ghosting compared to IPS. On my IPS, top half of screen has a faint ghost, and then bottom half has a full ghost -- it's not blurry, but annoying as heck (in UFO test). At least it's not in the middle of the screen where my eyes will be 95% of the time.
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I don't think any ULMB monitor gives you OD control when in ULMB mode.

ULMB should only be used at 120 Hz or above (although no monitor actually has ULMB above 120 Hz, but some have similar technologies that go up to 144). At 100 Hz, it's simply not strobing fast enough to outperform non-strobing I guess. Instead of motion blur you get too much strobe crosstalk. It flickers too much at 100 Hz for most people, and most definitely below 100 Hz the flicker will be too much.

BenQ does low motion blur at 144Hz on TN. On higher refresh, you will need faster pixel response, otherwise the ghost will be like half a screen away and be even more visible. Downside of course is 144Hz low motion blur on TN affects brightness and color quality quite a bit.

I've tested 85Hz and 100Hz ULMB on UFO test and the crosstalk was actually better than at 120Hz. The flicker often cited at <=100Hz hasn't been apparent to me yet with long durations of BF4 that often drop to 90fps.
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Yes. Low motion blur on faster TN panels exhibit less or no ghosting compared to IPS. On my IPS, top half of screen has a faint ghost, and then bottom half has a full ghost -- it's not blurry, but annoying as heck (in UFO test). At least it's not in the middle of the screen where my eyes will be 95% of the time.
BenQ does low motion blur at 144Hz on TN. On higher refresh, you will need faster pixel response, otherwise the ghost will be like half a screen away and be even more visible. Downside of course is 144Hz low motion blur on TN affects brightness and color quality quite a bit.

I've tested 85Hz and 100Hz ULMB on UFO test and the crosstalk was actually better than at 120Hz. The flicker often cited at <=100Hz hasn't been apparent to me yet with long durations of BF4 that often drop to 90fps.

Interestingly enough, TFTCentral didn't complain about strobe crosstalk on the Eizo Foris FS2735 at 144 Hz, or mention that it was more than at 120 Hz. Although I assume the same as you. 144 Hz strobing is better suited for TN than IPS.

Do you not notice the flicker at 85 Hz? That's the first time I've heard of such a thing. On my XB270HU, 85 Hz not only has an insane amount of strobe crosstalk, the flicker instantly gives me a headache and makes me feel like crap. Dangerous stuff for some of us. 100 Hz is flickery to me on the desktop but not in games, but the crosstalk is worse than the motion blur with ULMB disabled.
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Just tried it again at 85Hz ULMB for about 15 minutes. Forgot Fast Sync and the screen tearing was pretty bright and evident.

Turned on Fast Sync and played again for 30 minutes at 85Hz ULMB with no flickering. May be I'm just not sensitive to it -- I have ambient lighting so maybe that's reducing the flickering visible.
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Just tried it again at 85Hz ULMB for about 15 minutes. Forgot Fast Sync and the screen tearing was pretty bright and evident.

Turned on Fast Sync and played again for 30 minutes at 85Hz ULMB with no flickering. May be I'm just not sensitive to it -- I have ambient lighting so maybe that's reducing the flickering visible.

Oh right, duh. I game in the dark with only a bias light, so that definitely makes it worse. I think my brain would explode after about 20 minutes of 85 Hz ULMB.
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My Gsync is not capping the FPS at 144hz in any of my games. Seems to have started after the new Windows 10 Anniversary update. Anyone else having this issue? I've checked G-Sync settings, ran DDU and reinstalled Nvidia, etc.



UPDATE - so it appears Gsync will only work if I play my games in Windowed mode. Something in the Windows 10 update definitely is causing some issues.
Edited by chon - 8/20/16 at 1:55pm
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My Gsync is not capping the FPS at 144hz in any of my games. Seems to have started after the new Windows 10 Anniversary update. Anyone else having this issue? I've checked G-Sync settings, ran DDU and reinstalled Nvidia, etc.



UPDATE - so it appears Gsync will only work if I play my games in Windowed mode. Something in the Windows 10 update definitely is causing some issues.

Is V-Sync enabled in NVIDIA Inspector/Control Panel? G-SYNC settings are set to fullscreen only? I'm trying to avoid anniversary edition at all costs.
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Is V-Sync enabled in NVIDIA Inspector/Control Panel? G-SYNC settings are set to fullscreen only? I'm trying to avoid anniversary edition at all costs.

Its enabled as full-screen only now. If is set it to full-screen and windowed, I can then enable windowed mode in my games with no problems.

Vsync in NCP is set to application-controlled, which is odd as there used to be a GSYNC setting in there.
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@ Boredgunner,

I am running Acer xb271hu gsync 144hz monitor with Windows ANV update with latest whql driver and gsync works for me in full screen mode. I never run my games in windows mode so dont know anything about that. I have checked with GTA 5, witcher 3 and FIFA 16.

However, I can tell you one thing, the windows annv update didnt do anything significant in terms of performance, infact, it feels more bulky and gpus do seem to act strange from to time (hitching, driver crash, etc)
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Has anyone noticed that DSR will not work correctly with G-Sync?

NVidia's official guides say DSR will work with G-Sync in single-GPU configuration. It currently does not.

Observed tearing, captured by phone (FRAPS wasn't unable to capture it):


FRAPS capture show no tearing, oddly:

Edited by mouacyk - 8/20/16 at 3:09pm
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