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Hmm. I came to this thread in the same dilemma. I think there are several options:

Buy the XR341CK now at amazon ($941 + tax currently). This is what I have saved in my amazon cart, but not sure that I want to play the panel lottery.

Wait to check out the LG model that's coming out:

http://www.lg.com/us/monitors/lg-34UC98-W-ultrawide-monitor

$1199

Wait for the PG348Q, which looks similar to the Acer.

The best option it seems is the monoprice one mentioned in this thread. Supposedly for $499. Although I really want Freesync, I am not sure i want to pay $500 for it. It seems like the best bet would be to buy the monoprice, and spend $500 on a better graphics card in the summer when new cards come out.

The LG seems to have a FreeSync range of 55-75 Hz but is 60 Hz out of the box. Maybe wait for reviews. The PG348Q is G-SYNC.
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Found a very nice article with good information here (more details in the embedded video within). Even though they are covering the differences between FreeSync and G-Sync, they provide insight on the underlying technologies: http://www.pcper.com/reviews/Graphics-Cards/Dissecting-G-Sync-and-FreeSync-How-Technologies-Differ

To sum up what I learned, G-SYNC essentially has no minimum refresh rate, and it has a maximum refresh rate corresponding to the monitor's specifications.

So take, for example, a G-SYNC monitor with a VRR window of 30-144 Hz.

  • Between 30-144 Hz: G-SYNC works the way we all understand it to work, namely: fps = refresh rate.
  • Above 144 Hz: G-SYNC forces V-sync "on", so you have a capped monitor refresh rate (which essentially means a capped fps)
  • Below 30 Hz:
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    Rather than reverting to VSync on or off, the module in the G-Sync display is responsible for auto-refreshing the screen if the frame rate dips below the minimum refresh of the panel that would otherwise be affected by flicker. So, in a 30-144 Hz G-Sync monitor, we have measured that when the frame rate actually gets to 29 FPS, the display is actually refreshing at 58 Hz, each frame being “drawn” one extra instance to avoid flicker of the pixels but still maintains a tear free and stutter free animation. If the frame rate dips to 25 FPS, then the screen draws at 50 Hz. If the frame rate drops to something more extreme like 14 FPS, we actually see the module quadruple drawing the frame, taking the refresh rate back to 56 Hz. It’s a clever trick that keeps the VRR goals and prevents a degradation of the gaming experience. But, this method requires a local frame buffer and requires logic on the display controller to work. Hence, the current implementation in a G-Sync module.

If all this information is accurate, then there's no need to enable V-sync with G-Sync, and you would still get the full tear-free/stutter-free experience at all frame rates.
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Btw, someone on Reddit already has that new LG. https://www.reddit.com/r/ultrawidemasterrace/comments/41yvoi/ascended_with_a_lg_34uc98/

I asked him to do some overclocking testing.
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Found a very nice article with good information here (more details in the embedded video within). Even though they are covering the differences between FreeSync and G-Sync, they provide insight on the underlying technologies: http://www.pcper.com/reviews/Graphics-Cards/Dissecting-G-Sync-and-FreeSync-How-Technologies-Differ

To sum up what I learned, G-SYNC essentially has no minimum refresh rate, and it has a maximum refresh rate corresponding to the monitor's specifications.

So take, for example, a G-SYNC monitor with a VRR window of 30-144 Hz.

  • Between 30-144 Hz: G-SYNC works the way we all understand it to work, namely: fps = refresh rate.
  • Above 144 Hz: G-SYNC forces V-sync "on", so you have a capped monitor refresh rate (which essentially means a capped fps)
  • Below 30 Hz:

If all this information is accurate, then there's no need to enable V-sync with G-Sync, and you would still get the full tear-free/stutter-free experience at all frame rates.

Well you have to enable V-Sync in the GPU driver for V-Sync to take over at maximum refresh rate, so that your frame rate doesn't go over the max refresh rate. Or just use a frame rate limiter.

FreeSync now does the same thing with Crimson drivers.
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Well you have to enable V-Sync in the GPU driver for V-Sync to take over at maximum refresh rate, so that your frame rate doesn't go over the max refresh rate. Or just use a frame rate limiter.

FreeSync now does the same thing with Crimson drivers.

According to that article, G-Sync will force V-sync on automatically over the max, whereas FreeSync gives you the option to enable/disable V-sync at that point.
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[*] Above 144 Hz: G-SYNC forces V-sync "on", so you have a capped monitor refresh rate (which essentially means a capped fps)
I was in doubt about gsync forcing vsync, thanks for clarifying.
Same for refresh rate doubling, I read about the mechanics but forgot it.
Nice shot.
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According to that article, G-Sync will force V-sync on automatically over the max, whereas FreeSync gives you the option to enable/disable V-sync at that point.

Regarding G-Sync, that only happens when V-Sync is set to enabled in the GPU drivers, which are the default G-SYNC settings so that article isn't incorrect. You do have the option of disabling it though, by disabling V-Sync.
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Really would have loved LG's Freesync panel to come with these specs. Looks so much niced then this
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Btw, someone on Reddit already has that new LG. https://www.reddit.com/r/ultrawidemasterrace/comments/41yvoi/ascended_with_a_lg_34uc98/

I asked him to do some overclocking testing.

That LG is stunning. I really prefer the stand on that and my own LG34UC97-S. These two look so much nicer then the Acer X34 and this panel. Shame the specs are not what I want on them so going for the ROG redface.gif
     
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Really would have loved LG's Freesync panel to come with these specs. Looks so much niced then this
That LG is stunning. I really prefer the stand on that and my own LG34UC97-S. These two look so much nicer then the Acer X34 and this panel. Shame the specs are not what I want on them so going for the ROG redface.gif

Yeah I'm curious how far the new LG can be pushed. If it is able to do like 90 Hz overclocked I'd buy it over the ROG or X34.
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Does the fact that Freesync can only handle 75hz at 3440x1440 and Gsync can handle 100hz at the same resolution makes Gsync a superior tech?
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