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Originally Posted by jacob650 View Post

Why is it we cannot have IPS monitors doing 100hz or 144hz guaranteed? who is Samsung targeting with there VA monitors at 144hz with no G-sync? who uses such high refresh rate other than gaming?

Keep in mind that Samsung is only developing the panel. They aren't necessarily making their own product from it. They may just plan on selling the panels to companies like Asus and Acer.
post #322 of 1177
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Originally Posted by jacob650 View Post

Why is it we cannot have IPS monitors doing 100hz or 144hz guaranteed? who is Samsung targeting with there VA monitors at 144hz with no G-sync? who uses such high refresh rate other than gaming?

I'm sure they'll use that panel in a FreeSync monitor.
Edited by boredgunner - 1/31/16 at 8:00pm
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post #323 of 1177
Oh yeah. That baby in freesync from Samsung will do me nicely
post #324 of 1177
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Originally Posted by blackforce View Post

looks to be a much better monitor then that trash x34 acer put out. where can you preorder in the usa?

I disagree. By reading the new advertisement, the fine letter and the manual, I think this monitor DOES NOT offer anything different than the X34 one. They DON'T guarantee the overclocking to 100hz, they won't be responsible should anything happen to the monitor when overclocking it, what's more, they even "suggest" you NOT TO overclock always the monitor saying that MOBA games and the like DON'T need more than 60hz and that "specially" the games that need a 100 refresh rate are FPS games only.

As an owner of a Predator XB1 (144hz) I find the overall desktop experience, even when working in MS-Word, reading e-mails or surfing the web at frequencies higher than 60hz is a very nice and smooth experience, so what if I would always like to work at the fullest hz (100hz in this case)?

Please tell me what difference you found between the X34 and this one apart from the design?

I was eager to buy this monitor but now I'm thinking it would be THE SAME if I bought the X34 one, so it would seem that if should be a question of availability and better price. If the ASUS one is even more expensive than the X34, again, I don't see what extra features you get for the extra price?

P.S. It's interesting that Acer says the X34 has a response time of 4 ms but Asus says theirs is 5 ms.

One advantage of the X34 I see is that it is a tested and reviewed monitor and that basically all sites (Tom's Hardware, TFT Central, PC Gamer) loved it and gave an excellent punctuation so it seems as I saw nothing new with the Asus one, that said Asus monitor would only want to get the same results but not better. I could understand if QC was an issue but as much as I love Asus products, display wise I've noted that both Asus and Acer are equally bad.

As of now there are NO X34 monitors available anywhere in the US online store (well, apart from some resellers at ebay). Do you think that the new shipment of X34s ones will be like a 1.2 revised version? As Acer have been dealing with all the know issues one could possible think they have taken note and ship new ones with the defects revised you like Dell does with their monitors...

P.S. Funny thing is the Acer says the X34 has a 4 ms response time while Asus says their monitor has a 5 ms one...
Edited by insoc - 1/31/16 at 8:07pm
post #325 of 1177
I'll probably choose the Asus simply for ascetics not because its a better monitor than the x34, since i have an ROG build, might as well finish it off with the ROG monitor. but i still wonder, why can't they achieve 100-144hz Refresh rate without effecting its longevity or durability, or is the monitor itself limiting for some reason, what is limiting it? and true Samsung will probably release those VA monitors using Free-sync which i believe can still be compatible with Nvidia cards right?
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Originally Posted by jacob650 View Post

I'll probably choose the Asus simply for ascetics not because its a better monitor than the x34, since i have an ROG build, might as well finish it off with the ROG monitor. but i still wonder, why can't they achieve 100-144hz Refresh rate without effecting its longevity or durability, or is the monitor itself limiting for some reason, what is limiting it? and true Samsung will probably release those VA monitors using Free-sync which i believe can still be compatible with Nvidia cards right?

FreeSync does not work with Nvidia cards. There's nothing preventing from it working really but NV doesn't want to support it.

But like I said, Acer and Asus will probably end up using the Samsung panel to make a G-Sync version.
post #327 of 1177
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Originally Posted by kapparrian View Post

Found some interesting things in the PG348Q manual:
• Turbo key has 7 options: 60,75,85,85,90,95,100 Hz.
You mean 80,85 wink.gif
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• Please note that Over Clocking function/performance depends on the GPUs or contents displayed.
ASUS only provides this function. The performance or any side effect after activation is not
guaranteed.
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Originally Posted by x3sphere View Post

That's not encouraging at all. Asus is not holding any responsibility to the overclock. In other words, if you have any issues > 60 Hz, it's not their problem.
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Originally Posted by insoc View Post

I think this monitor DOES NOT offer anything different than the X34 one. They DON'T guarantee the overclocking

OK kids, something needs to be clarified: we're talking about overclocking.
By means, OC and its effects is not guaranteed and no manufacturer will take responsibility about it.
When you overclock anything, ie pushing something beyond its limits, you do it at your own risk.

Would you whine at Intel 'cause your 6700K doesn't hit the 5GHz ? Or because you burnt your CPU with too much voltage ?
Bad example, now that I think of it, a lot of kids already whine at Intel for those kind of reasons... biggrin.gif
post #328 of 1177
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Originally Posted by MasterDav View Post


OK kids, something needs to be clarified: we're talking about overclocking.
By means, OC and its effects is not guaranteed and no manufacturer will take responsibility about it.
When you overclock anything, ie pushing something beyond its limits, you do it at your own risk.

Would you whine at Intel 'cause your 6700K doesn't hit the 5GHz ? Or because you burnt your CPU with too much voltage ?
Bad example, now that I think of it, a lot of kids already whine at Intel for those kind of reasons... biggrin.gif

I'm well aware and expected it. Some people kept insisting that this panel would come out of the box at 100 Hz or have a "guaranteed" 100 Hz OC though.

It's not their fault though. Frankly Asus was being misleading by never mentioning the term "overclock" in marketing materials. And apparently they also told PCPer that it would be 100 Hz out of the box.
Edited by x3sphere - 1/31/16 at 9:32pm
post #329 of 1177
THIS. Regardless of whether or not it's the consumers responsibility, the company ADVERTISES that it can go up to 100hz, reigns people in with BS marketing tactics. I don't see Intel on any of it's advertisements saying can overclock "up to 5+ ghz with a special turbo key" like it's a sure thing. Very misleading.
post #330 of 1177
With all due respect to everybody, I still can't understand, even for a person like me that "suffers" from OCD, why if a monitor is OK in everything else but instead of going up to 100hz goes up to "only" 95hz, still need to return it? There's absolutely no way one can actually detect the difference between both rates and no effect whatsoever in actual gameplay....
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