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I hope we get 144hz 3440x1440 until Q1 2017. Any chances?
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I’m still a little hesitant about pre-ordering this monitor, what with the next gen of GPU’s coming out soon with DP 1.3 support , and panels guaranteed to do 144hz later in the year over DP 1.3. Seems like these offerings from Acer and Asus are just trying to squeeze the last drop they can get out of the old DP 1.2 technology but at a premium price. The sensible thing probably is to wait… But I do understand other peoples excitement about these monitors, including mine..

There are a few reasons why I would choose the Asus over the X34.

One, aesthetics, I absolutely hate glossy black plastic! It always reminds me of those nasty mass produced home computer systems Acer etc used to make in the late 90’s early 2000’s, and because I’ve been into computing so many years, I still regard Acer as a low quality brand, even though they may have improved greatly over the years. I will probably get a few hate mails from Acer owners saying how amazing their products are, but I always built my own systems and used to cringe at the awful specs and problems these mass produced home systems used to have, cant shake it, so I still steer clear of Acer.

Two, The Asus has better refresh rates over HDMI, and because of the applications I use, only one GPU will have monitors connected to it. One using DP the other HDMI. If you are proficient at 3ds max using multiple GPU’s for iray rendering, you will know my reasons why ;-)

Three, I use my system very long hours each day, more for business than for gaming, so the TUV flicker free , ultra low blue light certification, is a plus, compared to the flicker free only cert on the x34. This may not seem important to new gamers, but when you have been sitting in front of computers for over 30 years like I have, you'll start to understand how important your eye sight is and maintaining a healthy metabolism.

So for now I will only use one monitor for gaming, and I am pretty sure my 4x Titans in SLI will be ok getting to 100hz. As long as my MoBo doesn’t have a problem with 4-way SLI and G-sync, as I have never used G-sync before. 4-way SLI works fine though, ultra settings on all games and no micro stutter. Being a dual CPU system two GPU’s per CPU, hoping there wont be any problems though.

The first monitor will be used for view ports and tools in Max, and gaming when in SLI, ( SLI must be off for Iray rendering) . The second monitor will be used for Photoshop, or DWG references etc, or watching a movie with my left eye while working ;-)

Still not decided on if the second monitor will be a PG348Q or a Dell U3415W? If I go for another PG348q it would only be for aesthetics, better hdmi refresh rate, and the TUV certification, so not sure that’s worth paying double for! That being said, I do plan on getting a third Ultra wide when I have more space, and will build a new system later in the year with Pascal GPU’s which will make surround gaming more tempting, hard to decide : -(

The only down side to Asus in my opinion is there technical support. Completely useless. I have always ended up solving any problems myself, usually a tweak in the Bios or a change in the OS, but if I were to follow Asus Tech supports advice I would have had to reinstall my OS 5 times by now and RMA my board at least 3 times, that’s all Asus tech support ever recommend, useless!! Never had to do any of those things, unless I choose to upgrade my OS! No Idea what Acers tech support is like, but it must be better than Asus!
post #333 of 1177
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With all due respect to everybody, I still can't understand, even for a person like me that "suffers" from OCD, why if a monitor is OK in everything else but instead of going up to 100hz goes up to "only" 95hz, still need to return it? There's absolutely no way one can actually detect the difference between both rates and no effect whatsoever in actual gameplay....

If the monitor weren't $1300 I would agree with you, but it is, so I want it to have its full potential, not a lottery short. When it comes time to sell the monitor, I also don't want to say oh it works at 95hz, but screen flickers at 100hz, I want a "have been using this at 100hz for years".

Honestly this is sounding just like the X34 all over again, I will still buy one but am expecting scanlines and terrible BLB just like the last two X34's I owned. At least my expectations are low enough where I won't be disappointed when I get a terrible unit, will probably give this a 2nd chance too and just have to settle for the $499 Monoprice monitor with no G-Sync and 25hz less, atleast that will be worth the money.
post #334 of 1177
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Originally Posted by insoc View Post

With all due respect to everybody, I still can't understand, even for a person like me that "suffers" from OCD, why if a monitor is OK in everything else but instead of going up to 100hz goes up to "only" 95hz, still need to return it? There's absolutely no way one can actually detect the difference between both rates and no effect whatsoever in actual gameplay....

First off 95hz is not 100hz. Second why would you wanna pay full price and get 95hz while someone els pay full price and get 100hz.
The only one whos gonna lose on it is you, or you can simply send it back with mail, it take less then 5 mins to just ship it back, i cant understand anyhow who would keep a monitor not working as it should.

Also this "up too" is something that we have learned to accept when it comes to internet speed, like i have "up too"1000/1000mbit, while in reality its about 980/980mbit. But this should under no circumstances be accept to "new products" exemple: this can contains "up too" 2 litre of water. This new car have "up too" four tires attached to it.

We the consumers should not make it easy on Acer or Asus and go -oh well up too 100hz im happy with 90hz. Its not like you gonna get a nice gift in your mail box or a thank you, its just gonna be you and your full priced monitor at 95hz sitting at your desk, and that will not work for me.
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What makes people think this monitor is gonna be any better than the trainwreck that is the PG279Q?
post #336 of 1177
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What makes people think this monitor is gonna be any better than the trainwreck that is the PG279Q?

Maybe the delay for the release? So they could optimize QC after PG279Q Disaster .. i dont know but better they did because people will be more than angry paying this amount of money and getting such a Disaster delivered at home like the smaller brother
post #337 of 1177
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What makes people think this monitor is gonna be any better than the trainwreck that is the PG279Q?

AU Optronics (ACER) make the PG279Q, which is why it has bad backlight bleed and IPS glow

We do not know if ASUS is using a new version of the LG panel, which allows overclocking 100hz in more samples

Also do not expect a 3440x1440p 144hz Gsync this year, we do not know if these panels are going into production in Q2 or being released in Q2, the Samsung version will be Freesync and the AU Optronics I expect will be Gsync, however AU Optronics have response times all over the place and do not make good VA panels (look at the ACER Predator Z35) also I expect QC to be awful

We need LG or Dell to make a 3440x1440p 144hz Gsync monitor, so do not expect a good 3440x1440p 144hz Gsync monitor this year

Actually it is Q3 for the bigger 3440x1440p 144hz panel
Edited by Metros - 2/1/16 at 7:02am
post #338 of 1177
UPDATE

Samsung is not releasing any 3440x1440p 144hz panels. It is only AU Optronics who is releasing the 3440x1440p 144hz panels. However it is not confirmed to have Gsync or Freesync yet, also we do not know if the panel is going into production then or if it has finished production, also it does not mean that the monitor will be released then
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Originally Posted by Metros View Post

UPDATE

Samsung is not releasing any 3440x1440p 144hz panels. It is only AU Optronics who is releasing the 3440x1440p 144hz panels. However it is not confirmed to have Gsync or Freesync yet, also we do not know if the panel is going into production then or if it has finished production, also it does not mean that the monitor will be released then

Wasn't it a VA panel anyways? If it's not an IPS type I know some of us here would not even consider it. Especially the size, viewing angles will matter.
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Wasn't it a panel VA anyways? If it's not an IPS type I know some of us here would not even consider it. Especially the size, viewing angles will matter.

They are all VA at the moment, will need to wait for LG to start making them for IPS (they should do soon)

I would not get a VA panel from AU Optronics anyway, due to huge response times in some areas

Found more information, AU Optronics started production of the 2560x1080p 144hz panel in May 2015 and only just got released in December, so it took 7 months from production to release, so expect the 3440x1440p 144hz panel in Q1 2017

"AUO AMVA M350DVR01.0 2560x1080 4ms G2G 2000:1 300 172/178 16.7m sRGB W-LED 144Hz 21:9 Curved 2000R May-15"

http://www.tftcentral.co.uk/articles/monitor_panel_parts.htm
Edited by Metros - 2/1/16 at 7:38am
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