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post #661 of 1177
Yeah... 90 day warranty on a "overclockable" monitor... even it's this cheap... I wouldn't jump in it.
post #662 of 1177
I found this thread about ULMB problem, what's your opinions about this?

https://linustechtips.com/main/topic/544656-rog-swift-pg348q-is-apparently-without-ulmbshame-asus/
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I should have ordered two, as there is a higher chance of getting a good one

I think it will look really good having three Ultra wides , will need a big desk, can I ask what desk/worktop you have and the sizes smile.gif
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I think you're right, but depending on your desk design/layout, you could use three separate individual monitor mounts (i.e. loctek)

I've already measured up. ATM I can only fit two side by side on my desk with approx. 10cm hanging over each side. Third monitor and stand / arms will be at a later date, bigger desk and a room change / rearrange :-)

Mine is scheduled for delivery today, early afternoon :-)))

Knowing my complete lack of luck, it will probably be a dud!

Yesterdays fluke of nabbing the last one is god / quantum physics way of dangling the bate, then giving me the middle finger :-//
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You guy are killing me. As usual, the pink nerd glasses are on and distorting reality.

We might see DP 1.3 in 2017 but what most people forget about is R&D roadmap to make the technology practical. You guys have many examples right in front of your eyes yet you look away and try to pretend it doesn't exist.

Remember Volta that got pushed back? Why? R&D taking longer than expected to be implemented in a practical form so it's still conceptual.

Look how long it's taking for a company like Asus to release "an old DP 1.2" 21:9 monitor? You guys think they took their sweet time out of laziness? There is profit to be made at the end of the day so if it's taking that much time, it's because it's not that simple.

Look how long it took to release the 980ti after the big chip was announced.

Look how long it's taking for companies like Samsung and Sony to jump on the OLED TV train because it's much harder than expected to implement the technology in an affordable yet profit making device. Even LG is dealing with pretty obvious and pretty troublesome issues with their OLED tv. It's not that simple.

The list goes on and on yet people keep thinking the El Dorado is always right around the corner. Very often new technology is delayed for many reasons like R&D problems, difficulties in components purchasing, lack of profit due to production costs, production facilities availability...

Seeing how long it usually takes, seeing we haven't even seen a Pascal GPU yet and we are getting close to Q2 2016, knowing Nvidia and AMD milk out a GPU before releasing the next one (meaning there's a delay and they won't release the next "980ti" right after the first Pascal card), knowing there's a chance the first Pascal GPU will still have DP 1.2 and only the big chip will have DP 1.3, knowing AMD and Nvidia will enter a battle over HBM memory that will complicate production, knowing it takes much longer for monitors to match GPU power once a new GPU is released (look how long it took for a 3440x1440 100hz monitor to be released after Maxwell big chip was released), we might only see a combo of Pascal DP 1.3 with a 21:9 144hz monitor in 2018-2019. I even have my doubts we'll see Pascal's big chip before 2018.
Edited by Merranza - 2/10/16 at 5:32am
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Originally Posted by Merranza View Post

You guy are killing me. As usual, the pink nerd glasses are on and distorting reality.

We might see DP 1.3 in 2017 but what most people forget about is R&D roadmap to make the technology practical. You guys have many examples right in front of your eyes yet you look away and try to pretend it doesn't exist.

Remember Volta that got pushed back? Why? R&D taking longer than expected to be implemented in a practical form so it's still conceptual.

Look how long it's taking for a company like Asus to release "an old DP 1.2" 21:9 monitor? You guys think they took their sweet time out of laziness? There is profit to be made at the end of the day so if it's taking that much time, it's because it's not that simple.

Look how long it took to release the 980ti after the big chip was announced.

Look how long it's taking for companies like Samsung and Sony to jump on the OLED TV train because it's much harder than expected to implement the technology in an affordable yet profit making device. Even LG is dealing with pretty obvious and pretty troublesome issues with their OLED tv. It's not that simple.

The list goes on and on yet people keep thinking the El Dorado is always right around the corner. Very often new technology is delayed for many reasons like R&D problems, difficulties in components purchasing, lack of profit due to production costs, production facilities availability...

Seeing how long it usually takes, seeing we haven't even seen a Pascal GPU yet and we are getting close to Q2 2016, knowing Nvidia and AMD milk out a GPU before releasing the next one (meaning there's a delay and they won't release the next "980ti" right after the first Pascal card), knowing there's a chance the first Pascal GPU will still have DP 1.2 and only the big chip will have DP 1.3, knowing AMD and Nvidia will enter a battle over HBM memory that will complicate production, knowing it takes much longer for monitors to match GPU power once a new GPU is released (look how long it took for a 3440x1440 100hz monitor to be released after Maxwell big chip was released), we might only see a combo of Pascal DP 1.3 with a 21:9 144hz monitor in 2018-2019. I even have my doubts we'll see Pascal's big chip before 2018.

I gotta say you do bring up some good points.... At this point we haven't seen any panels, or gpu's except for what's been 'demoed' (without seeing any physical next gen GPU's as far as I know) at CES.... Plus who knows what issues along the production line could happen. Worth waiting a bit perhaps?
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I have to agree too, you have some excellent points
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Originally Posted by Merranza View Post

You guy are killing me. As usual, the pink nerd glasses are on and distorting reality.

We might see DP 1.3 in 2017 but what most people forget about is R&D roadmap to make the technology practical. You guys have many examples right in front of your eyes yet you look away and try to pretend it doesn't exist.

Remember Volta that got pushed back? Why? R&D taking longer than expected to be implemented in a practical form so it's still conceptual.

....

I would agree with you except that DP 1.3 has been a done deal for some time now, the only reason we haven't seen it on monitors yet is because it hasn't been put on a gpu yet, and the only reason it hasn't been put on a gpu yet is because we don't have gpu's capable of pushing that kind of data. With Pascal, we will. I expect we'll see DP 1.3 on Pascal gpu's this year, and DP 1.3 monitors in 2017. And I don't expect manufacturers to waste ANY time getting them to market. Manufacturers like to make money, and everybody knows the reason the current crop of 4k (& 3440) monitors aren't selling faster is because they max out at 60hz. We're just now starting to see a little action in the g-sync end of the market as people rush to grab 100hz options. I expect we'll see pretty much every gamer & enthusiast out there ready with cash-in-hand to grab the first 4k/3440 120hz DP 1.3 monitors when they hit the market, just like we did when 1440p @120hz first became a thing.
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Originally Posted by chrisnyc75 View Post

I would agree with you except that DP 1.3 has been a done deal for some time now, the only reason we haven't seen it on monitors yet is because it hasn't been put on a gpu yet, and the only reason it hasn't been put on a gpu yet is because we don't have gpu's capable of pushing that kind of data. With Pascal, we will. I expect we'll see DP 1.3 on Pascal gpu's this year, and DP 1.3 monitors in 2017. And I don't expect manufacturers to waste ANY time getting them to market. Manufacturers like to make money, and everybody knows the reason the current crop of 4k (& 3440) monitors aren't selling faster is because they max out at 60hz. We're just now starting to see a little action in the g-sync end of the market as people rush to grab 100hz options. I expect we'll see pretty much every gamer & enthusiast out there ready with cash-in-hand to grab the first 4k/3440 120hz DP 1.3 monitors when they hit the market, just like we did when 1440p @120hz first became a thing.

I agree with what you said if the development of those monitors begins before the release of Pascal with DP 1.3. If the companies wait for the GPU to be released, it will probably go beyond 2017.

The other thing to factor in is, despite DP 1.3 being able to reach higher than 100hz on 3440x1440/4k, the first monitors to be released might not be aimed toward gamers and first iterations of those new models might have their own set of problems (look at the current lineup release of 3440x1440 monitors).
post #669 of 1177
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I gotta say you do bring up some good points.... At this point we haven't seen any panels, or gpu's except for what's been 'demoed' (without seeing any physical next gen GPU's as far as I know) at CES.... Plus who knows what issues along the production line could happen. Worth waiting a bit perhaps?

Either that or buy a 3440x1440 100hz monitor now if you can afford it and enjoy it now because the waiting game for the Holy grail of 3440x1440/4k 100+hz might be much longer than what people throw around and fantasize. By the time your combo of GPU/monitor manifests, you might be due for a whole system upgrade at that point...
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Originally Posted by Merranza View Post

I agree with what you said if the development of those monitors begins before the release of Pascal with DP 1.3. If the companies wait for the GPU to be released, it will probably go beyond 2017.

The other thing to factor in is, despite DP 1.3 being able to reach higher than 100hz on 3440x1440/4k, the first monitors to be released might not be aimed toward gamers and first iterations of those new models might have their own set of problems (look at the current lineup release of 3440x1440 monitors).

Yeah, that's true. And the big wildcard in all of this is, of course, nvidia. And you could be right about not seeing high end gaming [Pascal] cards until 2017 given that pretty much everybody agrees they're changing up the release pattern this time.

But I still think we'll see 4k @ 120hz in 2017, even if not 21:9
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Originally Posted by Merranza View Post

Either that or buy a 3440x1440 100hz monitor now if you can afford it and enjoy it now because the waiting game for the Holy grail of 3440x1440/4k 100+hz might be much longer than what people throw around and fantasize. By the time your combo of GPU/monitor manifests, you might be due for a whole system upgrade at that point...

Yeah, that's exactly what I just did (I went with the Samsung). I still just can't quite wrap my head around spending $1200+ on a monitor I expect to be outdated inside 24 months, though.
Edited by chrisnyc75 - 2/10/16 at 9:22am
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