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Originally Posted by Metros View Post

Get a calibrated profile for the monitor, once TFT central reviews it, then it will look the same or better than the ACER Predator X34

You seem to be comparing a calibrated monitor to an out of the box monitor

But profiles need to be made for the individual monitor, all panels are not identical, also it is a massive pain to get profiles working in all games and applications, apparently you can get 3DLUT working with games now, but it would be much easier if they did not give you fixed gamma and no options, even most £200 monitors have gamma options.... On the X34 you get 4 gamma options, RGB, and also 6 point color adjustments...
Edited by Nicholars - 2/12/16 at 5:49pm
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What was the brightness set at on that photo?
post #833 of 1177
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Originally Posted by Nicholars View Post

the X34 is possibly the better monitor, except for...
ASUS: ZBD
Acer: ISO 13406-2 ie no warranty below 24 dead sub pixels.

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What was the brightness set at on that photo?
Holy crap, the wall has BLB too eek.gif
post #834 of 1177
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Originally Posted by MasterDav View Post

ASUS: ZBD
Acer: ISO 13406-2 ie no warranty below 24 dead sub pixels.

But most monitors don't have any dead pixels (except AUO AHVA), and if they do you can send them back in 14 days under distance selling regs.
Edited by Nicholars - 2/12/16 at 7:29pm
post #835 of 1177
People who want the Asus rog will buy it anyway, but what I am seeing here so far, the PG348Q does not seem significantly better overall, some small things are better and some things are worse than the X34, assuming the backlight bleed and scan lines are the same on X34 and PG348Q, which is what it looks like so far, you are left with + and - for both, and you can decide if those things are important and if the PG348Q is worth another £90.... for a joystick, slightly better bezel, and less coil whine (from first reports), and the Asus brand / logo... but also no gamma options (quite a big problem IMO), bad speakers and another 10% on the already high price of the X34.
Edited by Nicholars - 2/12/16 at 8:35pm
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Random thread contribution, take or leave it:

I'm an X34 guy on a high end system (see sig).

Love:
*The size. 34" 3440 x 1440 widescreen is freaking amazing for gaming (however see - later....)
*Pic Quality. My previous monitor was the LG 34" 34uc97-p which uses the SAME panel as the X34 AND the PG348Q (except the LG is locked at 60hz). The pic quality on the X34 is just as good as the Lg's was, which is to say, excellent. Colors are especially amazing. If you try out a TN panel like the Asus ROG Swift after using the LG/X34/PG348Q IPS panel, you may actually think the TN monitor is broken!

Like:
*100hz. I came from a 60 hz monitor that uses the same panel as the X34 and PG348Q. I was pushing that with the same 2 x Titan X's so I was pretty much always maxed out at 60 fps in games. Now going to the X34, you will be surprised to learn that even 2 x Titan Xs WONT pull 100 fps in most AAA titles (GTA V, Witcher 3, Far Cry 4 for example) at 3440 x 1440 with all the detail settings maxed. I get around 80 FPS in those games. Going to 80 fps honestly doesn't feel THAT much smother than my old 60 HZ screen, but I do believe I noticed some improvement, especially in fast games where I get the full 100 FPS (example, WarThunder)
*The stand. I think the factory stand on the X34 looks infinitely better than the coke can looking stand on the PG348Q, but obviously this is subjective
*G-sync. I dont give it a love because I cant really be sure how my games would look without it. When I was playing at 60 fps on the LG, I didnt seem to notice much tearing or anything like that (The one exception would be WarGame Red Dragon where the screen often did a horizontal tear when panning the map, it doesn't do that on the X34). But I believe its making AAA games that only get 80 FPS seem smoother.
*The LED system. You have the ability to set it so that it the under screen LED is tied to G-Sync being on or off. Example, White G-sync is off / Red g-sync is on. This is a friendly feel-good hardware confirmation to know the G-sync you paid for is active and working, at least according to the monitor.
*BLB/IPS Glow. Black light bleed and/or IPS glow (not sure how you tell the difference) on the X34 are comparable to the LG 34 which uses the same panel. You dont game with the brightness set at 100%. Mine is somewhere around 40%. At this level, even dark games like Elite Dangerous look just fine. No, it's not OLED or TN when it comes to this. But if you are used to big IPS panels in the first place, you won't even notice the BLB.

Dont Like:
*Its 2016 and you will STILL find games that dont natively support 3440 x 1440. Examples, Fallout 4 and the new Homeworld Deserts of Whatever Game. Fallout 4 has some pretty simple INI edits that force 3440 x 1440 well enough, but Homewards .ini edits do NOT work for many widescreen players, myself included. I can only get it to show 2560 x 1440 and thus black bars on both sides of the screen.
*Some small QC issues. Many early adopters of the X34 reported a lot of little QC problems with a 1500 dollar monitor shouldn't have. The only one mine suffers from is the wake from sleep issue, however I haven't had sleep enabled on a monitor since the days of 19" CRTs so personally I dont care. But, its a bug that shouldnt be there.
*OSD. Yes, the menu interface is as bad as people say. Thankfully, once its set you never have to touch it again. The only time I find myself going back into the settings is to occasionally enable the on screen frame rate counter in the top right corner. But that's not so often.
*The Logo. The red Predator name badge on the front is pretty stupid looking, but you won't notice it ever again after the first 5 minutes of use.

Undecided:
*The curve. Im still not sure if I like the curve or not in normal desktop use. In games, I believe its just fine. As for having multiple rectangular windows open for desktop productivity, I'm undecided if I would prefer curve or flat.
*This is just an FYI, but you need HIGH end cards, and TWO of them, if you expect to get 80-100 FPS at 3440 x 1440 with details cranked up. Again, Im running 2 x Titan Xs and a 8 core 5960X, all OC'ed under custom water as well, and I still DONT get 100 FPS in Far Cry 4, Witcher 3, or GTA V. Expect about 80 FPS in those games with 2 x Titan Xs or 2 x 980 Tis. Or be willing to turn down AA etc.


Looking forward to the release of the PG348Q. The more 21:9 screens out there, the more pressure on game devs (looking at YOU Fallout 4 and Homeworld...) to support this resolution without user .ini edits.
Edited by skypine27 - 2/12/16 at 8:02pm
post #837 of 1177
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Originally Posted by solBLACK View Post

My impression on the situation is Asus was ready to release their product close to when Acer did. Their monitor probably had similar issues, but figured us consumers wouldn't mind all that much. Then they saw the backlash Acer was receiving and didn't want any part of that. Asus gave the monitor a little extra love and hopefully released a more finished product albeit being late to the party.

Hopefully the positive reviews keep coming in so when it gets released in the States I'll pick one up asap.
asus never intended to come out at the same time as acer,your inpression is wrong. nobody cares what acer is doing, call me what you want, i was waiting for asus and now i need it to hit the usa.
post #838 of 1177
Here two updates from my side - I unfortunately stand corrected. Re-tested for scanlines properly this morning and they are there, for sure. I only have them with Gsync on in the Pendulum demo (ie don't see them when in Vsync), but they are much more pronounced than they were on the X34 and stretching across the whole screen.


On the other hand BLB is really minimal as I said, here some pictures (half dark room, forgot to check in fully dark room last night). Even though it is angled the second picture is a better representation of actual BLB.




Given that based on Acer's admission and the findings so far every OC monitor with this panel seems to have scanlines I think I might just keep it and wait for something 'better' to come out in a year from now. Certainly not going back to my 24"
post #839 of 1177
Hey guys

Not sure what the "scanline" hate thing is for the X34, but keep in mind the Asus will uses the Exact same panel as the Acer.

Anyway, Im running 2 x Titan Xs and the X34 works great. The complaints might be from people with lower end hardware

There is some IPS glow/BLB in the corners (the camera makes it look worse than it does to the eye) but it is no worse than the flat LG 34 and the curved LG 34 I have owned before it:


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Originally Posted by skypine27 View Post

Hey guys

Not sure what the "scanline" hate thing is for the X34, but keep in mind the Asus will uses the Exact same panel as the Acer.

Anyway, Im running 2 x Titan Xs and the X34 works great. The complaints might be from people with lower end hardware

There is some IPS glow/BLB in the corners (the camera makes it look worse than it does to the eye) but it is no worse than the flat LG 34 and the curved LG 34 I have owned before it:



You probably won the lottery in terms out BLB. That's by far the best curved panel I've seen so far.
   
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