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Originally Posted by Dr Mad View Post

Metros, you talk a lot and you seem to know everything, you' have surely been blessed by God himself biggrin.gif

You say X34 has "so many issues" but today, most of them are fixed and I see 3 issues that are varying from panel to another.

- scanlines (shared with PG348Q)
- coil whine --> I tried up to 5 X34 but never experienced coil whine. My PG348Q is spared as well
- Overclock limitation --> each of my previous X34 reached 100hz with no problem but I understand how it could be frustrating for someone limited to 90/95hz.
It's too soon to tell with certainty that PG348Q will achieve a better rate.

I tried both X34 and PG348Q, you don't.
They both have their own pros & cons but in the end, I think they perform in the same way.

But honestly, the lack of gamma option is really crippling especially that it would cost nothing to Asus to implement that option.

ACER doing better QC would cost a small amount, however if the ASUS PG348Q does not produce scan lines (only a small sample) and does not have many people who cannot get to 100hz, then the ASUS PG348Q will be much better and it would be done to awful ACER QC (happens a lot, it seems) like I have said before we need to wait for more samples
post #882 of 1177
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Originally Posted by VeerK View Post

Where is your source that most X34 monitors don't get 100Hz?

Let me just look at the ACER Predator X34, show images and experiences here forum, I can find many 95hz users on this forum, did you want to look on the pages

I guess sourcing "most" would be difficult, however it is much more accurate than "the PG279Q had bad gamma, which made it look washed out and it looked awful" statement, which I provided a source to show that the statement was wrong
Edited by Metros - 2/13/16 at 3:39pm
post #883 of 1177
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Originally Posted by Nicholars View Post

My experience is that 75% of X34 get to 100hz (3 out of 4 I have seen), obviously if you are looking at a forum all the time you are going to hear the negative things more.

Add me to your list.

Im an X34 guy who had no problems getting to 100 hz on unboxing day (with 2 x Titan Xs however). No coil wine. No scanlines. BLB/IPS glow = to the curved LG 34" (which uses the same panel as the X34/PG348Q by the way). I DO however have the wake from sleep bug (but I have sleep disabled).

I think the X34 and PG348Q are both great monitors as long as you get a decent unit.
post #884 of 1177
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Originally Posted by Metros View Post

Why do you say that, there could be more positive people on forums, so you cannot provide that statement

Also 75 percent, if using these figures, provide a source with it

Seriously you must do this on purpose, I hope you do for your own sake.
post #885 of 1177
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Originally Posted by Metros View Post

You could just change the gamma within Windows (better on OSD, however it is still possible)

The gamma on the monitor is still the same and changing it in windows a) doesn't really work properly, the gamma curve on the monitor is still the same b) only works on the desktop, and probably about 30-40% of games have no gamma option from my experience.
Edited by Nicholars - 2/13/16 at 4:01pm
post #886 of 1177
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Originally Posted by Metros View Post

Also I found this statement, saying that the gamma on the ASUS PG279Q was better than the XB270HU, so please provide a source

"The calibration performance tests came out with a 2.3 default average gamma, (4 percent deviance from 2.2) a default white point of 6206k (5 percent deviance from 6500k). Pretty good when compared with the competing Acer XB270HU which has a deviance of 9 percent and 6 percent respectively. It also has a better default DeltaE average of 1.1 compared to the XB270HU’s 1.9." (Porter, 2015)

Reference list

Porter, M. (2015) Asus’ 144Hz IPS RoG swift may be the new best gaming monitor. Available at: http://www.pcgamer.com/asus-pg279q-monitor-may-be-the-new-best-gaming-monitor/ (Accessed: 13 February 2016).

The point being, you can change the gamma on other monitors, the gamma was too low in my opinion and made the image look washed out, for people less experienced with monitors and calibration they might not notice.
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What sleep bug are you talking about? I may be experiencing something similar on my Acer Predator xb271hu.
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post #888 of 1177
I still think most people who can't get 100hz on the X34 have simply not the right GPU since you need the latest iteration. So they would have exactly the same issue with this monitor.

As others said, let those judge who had both and my verdict personally is very clear:

iF it wouldn't have coil whine the X34 would be the better value proposition. Unfortunately it does have coil whine (at least for me on UK power) and that is a knock out criteria. That being equal I would take the X34 over the PG348Q. But alas, here I am and I paid my 80quid extra for having less features and worst scan lines but I am happier now due to that one issue being resolved. Word of the day: Subjective (or, let's try not to force opinions on people)
post #889 of 1177
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Originally Posted by Nicholars View Post

The point being, you can change the gamma on other monitors, the gamma was too low in my opinion and made the image look washed out, for people less experienced with monitors and calibration they might not notice.

Hold on, you calling TFT central "less experienced" as that is the statement in the source, also this is your opinion, so stop making it seem like the monitor has awful gamma, as the PG279Q had great gamma, as you say "ASUS monitors use the same gamma" so the ASUS PG348Q must have great gamma then
post #890 of 1177
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Originally Posted by windholic View Post

I still think most people who can't get 100hz on the X34 have simply not the right GPU since you need the latest iteration. So they would have exactly the same issue with this monitor.

As others said, let those judge who had both and my verdict personally is very clear:

iF it wouldn't have coil whine the X34 would be the better value proposition. Unfortunately it does have coil whine (at least for me on UK power) and that is a knock out criteria. That being equal I would take the X34 over the PG348Q. But alas, here I am and I paid my 80quid extra for having less features and worst scan lines but I am happier now due to that one issue being resolved. Word of the day: Subjective (or, let's try not to force opinions on people)

Yeh I agree on the coil whine being irritating, but washed out gamma with no option to change it is worse for me. Also some have better or worse coil whine, some are terrible and some hardly have it at all.
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