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Someone else on the french forum do have scanlines with his brand new PG348Q.

http://forum.hardware.fr/hfr/HardwarePeripheriques/Ecran/ces2016-pg348q-nvidia-sujet_67785_6.htm#t868350

Me included, there are three people noticing scanlines. 5 knowed owners on this thread.
So for now it's 3/5 PG348Q affected by scanlines.

Don't forget what I said earlier, scanlines do appear even when the monitor is at native 60hz.
Also, they never disappear when FPS are near the monitor max frequency.

X34 ---> no scanlines at native 60hz --- no noticeable scanlines at 90-100 fps (100hz overclock)
PG348Q ---> scanlines at native 60hz --- scanlines still noticeable at 90-100 fps (100hz overclock)
Also, on the contrary of X34, disabling Gsync do not get rid of scanlines

This is fact.

Nevertheless, I must admit that concerning scanlines, my PG348Q is better than all my 5 previous X34. Color uniformity is also really good but X34 is displaying vivid and sharper colors than what I can see with the PG348Q.
Adjusting gamma in NVCP is not a solution as it only affects the curve.
post #932 of 1177
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Originally Posted by Nicholars View Post

It is metro, he goes round every monitor thread trolling the hell out of them lol...

The PG348Q looks good, BUT it is in not an amazing new monitor which is massively better than the X34. My only point was that it does not actually seem much better than the X34 (worse in some areas better in other, you decide what is more important)..

Sure, trying to find someone to blame, when you are providing wrong information without any sources, then you are saying the ACER Predator X34 is a better product, even if it has more issues
post #933 of 1177
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Originally Posted by Zay86 View Post

Tell that to Metros who spams Acer Predator X34 thread calling X34 inferior product and telling PG348Q is better, when actually there is not enough data about QC or overclocking to 100hz to prove that PG348Q is superior (PG348Q is way too new to the market to tell the quality of PG348Q vs X34 that is about 5 months old).

Could you provide a source for that statement, I have not been on that thread posting any comments about the ASUS PG348Q for a long time

I have a user review on page 70 (only has one image) if people did not read it
post #934 of 1177
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Originally Posted by Wagnelles View Post

This post went from a discussion to a childish brand war. Shame
Yes u right we need to focuse in the positive discussion regarding the product
Note: I owned x34 b4 and I don't want to flame
post #935 of 1177
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Originally Posted by SRPlus View Post

One of the first to get a PG348Q in the UK,(Wednesday10th 2pm ) but one of the last to upload photos, anyway as promised for the weekend...

http://www.overclock.net/g/a/1477253/pg348q/

Got there eventually :-)

Nice pictures, does look like a good panel! Enjoy thumb.gif

Will wait for some stock to come in so I have it arrive before selling the current monitor, would be annoying if I was left without a panel then finding out on pre-order day there are not enough!

Agree on your comments in regards to the X34. Exact same panel so someone buying this or the Acer should not really be feeling burnt as such. Seems ASUS have had time to cherry pick the better performing panels which is good (or at least by the small amount of samples of reviews I have seen posted), but get a good panel with either and your all good.
     
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post #936 of 1177
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Originally Posted by Dr Mad View Post

Someone else on the french forum do have scanlines with his brand new PG348Q.

http://forum.hardware.fr/hfr/HardwarePeripheriques/Ecran/ces2016-pg348q-nvidia-sujet_67785_6.htm#t868350

Me included, there are three people noticing scanlines. 5 knowed owners on this thread.
So for now it's 3/5 PG348Q affected by scanlines.

Don't forget what I said earlier, scanlines do appear even when the monitor is at native 60hz.
Also, they never disappear when FPS are near the monitor max frequency.

X34 ---> no scanlines at native 60hz --- no noticeable scanlines at 90-100 fps (100hz overclock)
PG348Q ---> scanlines at native 60hz --- scanlines still noticeable at 90-100 fps (100hz overclock)
Also, on the contrary of X34, disabling Gsync do not get rid of scanlines

This is fact.

Nevertheless, I must admit that concerning scanlines, my PG348Q is better than all my 5 previous X34. Color uniformity is also really good but X34 is displaying vivid and sharper colors than what I can see with the PG348Q.
Adjusting gamma in NVCP is not a solution as it only affects the curve.


The ACER Predator X34 had scan lines at anything over 60hz, I will need to find the analysis on the ACER Predator X34 forum
post #937 of 1177
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Originally Posted by SRPlus View Post

One of the first to get a PG348Q in the UK,(Wednesday10th 2pm ) but one of the last to upload photos, anyway as promised for the weekend...

http://www.overclock.net/g/a/1477253/pg348q/

Got there eventually :-)

Had to work a late one last night, so the last thing I want to do is sit on the computer longer.

I'm happy with it so far, although I do think that the calibration out of the box is not so great, my greys had a slightly brownish tint IMO.

As I said before , no dead Stuck Pixels, the best back light I've seen so far compared to others pics posted, but I will have to wait until dark for that as I am in a white room with a huge window, even closing the curtains still causes glare.

No problems at all getting the 100hz refresh rate on one Titan or 4x Titans, and the refresh toggle is very fast.

Been away from this thread a few days due to a funeral on Friday and a contract, but seems its turned into a bit of a squabble.

I don't think anyone that bought a X34 made a bad choice. Panel wise they are exactly the same, although its too early to say, but so far the 100hz problem is not so much of an issue on the Asus, or coil noise..

For me, like I said in the beginning, I prefer the Asus, and I said this before owning one. I hate glossy black plastic, makes things look cheap IMO, and I do like a stand that can swivel.

Plus from all the forums I have read, people that have actually owned both monitors prefer the Asus, and say the build quality is better, and I would have to agree. I've not owned the X34 but the build quality of the casing and stand is very high. Yes mostly plastic, but strong and well finished.

I'm not the best photographer sorry, and took the photos with my mobile, during the time of day the sun shines on the monitor so had to angle the camera a little, . Should have got the Nikon out. Mobile gives everything a fuzzy white edge when zoomed.

I haven't bothered testing to see if the speakers work as I have some Gigaworks speakers, so don't really care about the quality of the built in ones.

I don't think that anyone spending this amount on a monitor should accept any problems with them, or pay for people to check them first. If a monitor has too mush IPS glow, excessive BLB, dead pixels etc, for this price, it should be perfect. Its not just the X34 or Asus having problems but all monitors with this panel. Its the responsibility of Acer and Asus to make sure these monitors leave the factory without defects, and this panel has been in production now for over a year, so QC needs to be much higher.

People are afraid to send them back in case they get an even worse one, but I would definitely be sending mine back, and definitely not paying someone to check it, as its a QC problem that Acer and Asus need to address, not the customer. People really should not accept this as the norm. The more people complain and send back their defective monitors, the less money Asus make having to send out free replacements to retailers, so eventually they have to sort out their QC. Just my opinion :-)

Back to the scan lines thing. I've check very closely on my monitor, and its a very clear crisp image with no scan lines on the pendulum demo. But if I try to photograph it, there is banding and cross patterning etc on some shots, but this is very normal when photographing a CRT or LCD monitor.

I hope people are not thinking they have scan lines because they can see it only when photographing, as that's completely normal. If you cant see it with the human eye, you don't have scan lines.

Is the contrast good on it
post #938 of 1177
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Originally Posted by Metros View Post

Sure, trying to find someone to blame, when you are providing wrong information without any sources, then you are saying the ACER Predator X34 is a better product, even if it has more issues

Nope again I did not actually say that, I think I am going to have to block you because you are either doing it on purpose, or something else which I will not say because I will get an infraction.
post #939 of 1177
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Originally Posted by SRPlus View Post

One of the first to get a PG348Q in the UK,(Wednesday10th 2pm ) but one of the last to upload photos, anyway as promised for the weekend...

http://www.overclock.net/g/a/1477253/pg348q/

Got there eventually :-)

Had to work a late one last night, so the last thing I want to do is sit on the computer longer.

I'm happy with it so far, although I do think that the calibration out of the box is not so great, my greys had a slightly brownish tint IMO.

As I said before , no dead Stuck Pixels, the best back light I've seen so far compared to others pics posted, but I will have to wait until dark for that as I am in a white room with a huge window, even closing the curtains still causes glare.

No problems at all getting the 100hz refresh rate on one Titan or 4x Titans, and the refresh toggle is very fast.

Been away from this thread a few days due to a funeral on Friday and a contract, but seems its turned into a bit of a squabble.

I don't think anyone that bought a X34 made a bad choice. Panel wise they are exactly the same, although its too early to say, but so far the 100hz problem is not so much of an issue on the Asus, or coil noise..

For me, like I said in the beginning, I prefer the Asus, and I said this before owning one. I hate glossy black plastic, makes things look cheap IMO, and I do like a stand that can swivel.

Plus from all the forums I have read, people that have actually owned both monitors prefer the Asus, and say the build quality is better, and I would have to agree. I've not owned the X34 but the build quality of the casing and stand is very high. Yes mostly plastic, but strong and well finished.

I'm not the best photographer sorry, and took the photos with my mobile, during the time of day the sun shines on the monitor so had to angle the camera a little, . Should have got the Nikon out. Mobile gives everything a fuzzy white edge when zoomed.

I haven't bothered testing to see if the speakers work as I have some Gigaworks speakers, so don't really care about the quality of the built in ones.

I don't think that anyone spending this amount on a monitor should accept any problems with them, or pay for people to check them first. If a monitor has too mush IPS glow, excessive BLB, dead pixels etc, for this price, it should be perfect. Its not just the X34 or Asus having problems but all monitors with this panel. Its the responsibility of Acer and Asus to make sure these monitors leave the factory without defects, and this panel has been in production now for over a year, so QC needs to be much higher.

People are afraid to send them back in case they get an even worse one, but I would definitely be sending mine back, and definitely not paying someone to check it, as its a QC problem that Acer and Asus need to address, not the customer. People really should not accept this as the norm. The more people complain and send back their defective monitors, the less money Asus make having to send out free replacements to retailers, so eventually they have to sort out their QC. Just my opinion :-)

Back to the scan lines thing. I've check very closely on my monitor, and its a very clear crisp image with no scan lines on the pendulum demo. But if I try to photograph it, there is banding and cross patterning etc on some shots, but this is very normal when photographing a CRT or LCD monitor.

I hope people are not thinking they have scan lines because they can see it only when photographing, as that's completely normal. If you cant see it with the human eye, you don't have scan lines.

Looks like you got a nice panel... the white uniformity looks good as well... can you post a picture of a black screen with the lights off? Also did you test for scanlines when the monitor as at 100hz Gsync, but set to 40-60fps in the pendulum demo? It seems odd how some people say they don't have any, but some do... maybe you are not doing the correct test? (you might have to have your eyes very close to the screen to actually see them) Also do you have any coil whine at all?
Edited by Nicholars - 2/14/16 at 9:50am
post #940 of 1177
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Originally Posted by Nicholars View Post

You can't fix the gamma other than with a colorimeter and a 3Dlut for games, anyway I am done trying to explain things to people who do not understand or want to hear it. I have enough information now... I will leave you all to get on with your raving about the Asus ROG brand. I wouldn't be surprised if some only work at 95hz when more are released.
good who said they needed you for anything? i sure as hell don't ! I can make my on mind up.
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