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Originally Posted by Nicholars View Post

I can see the difference between 95-100hz, but the point is that the 95hz issue is wayyy out of proportion, the majority of X34 do 100hz if you have the correct GPU, and we have not seen enough PG348Q yet to see if they ALL do 100hz

But yes if it is actually true that some PG348Q still have scanlines at 100fps... that is actually worse.... On the X34 they are gone by about 60-70fps, and why you would ever want to play any game at less than 60fps on a 100hz Gsync monitor anyway? still early.. But someone saying "still has scanlines at 100fps" is a bit worrying.
I thought you where leaving?
post #942 of 1177
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Originally Posted by Nicholars View Post

Looks like you got a nice panel... the white uniformity looks good as well... can you post a picture of a black screen with the lights off? Also did you test for scanlines when the monitor as at 100hz Gsync, but set to 40-60fps in the pendulum demo? It seems odd how some people say they don't have any, but some do... maybe you are not doing the correct test? Also do you have any coil whine at all?

Just a question, did you not say a few pages back that you was leaving this thread?

I can find the "ASUS will use the same contrast on all their monitors, so it will be bad" statement

You cannot tell if gamma is too high or low in a picture, please stop making the same post
post #943 of 1177
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Originally Posted by Dr Mad View Post

Someone else on the french forum do have scanlines with his brand new PG348Q.

http://forum.hardware.fr/hfr/HardwarePeripheriques/Ecran/ces2016-pg348q-nvidia-sujet_67785_6.htm#t868350

Me included, there are three people noticing scanlines. 5 knowed owners on this thread.
So for now it's 3/5 PG348Q affected by scanlines.

Don't forget what I said earlier, scanlines do appear even when the monitor is at native 60hz.
Also, they never disappear when FPS are near the monitor max frequency.

X34 ---> no scanlines at native 60hz --- no noticeable scanlines at 90-100 fps (100hz overclock)
PG348Q ---> scanlines at native 60hz --- scanlines still noticeable at 90-100 fps (100hz overclock)
Also, on the contrary of X34, disabling Gsync do not get rid of scanlines

This is fact.

Nevertheless, I must admit that concerning scanlines, my PG348Q is better than all my 5 previous X34. Color uniformity is also really good but X34 is displaying vivid and sharper colors than what I can see with the PG348Q.
Adjusting gamma in NVCP is not a solution as it only affects the curve.
hear say if you know what that even means, BYE
post #944 of 1177
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Originally Posted by Metros View Post

The ACER Predator X34 had scan lines at anything over 60hz, I will need to find the analysis on the ACER Predator X34 forum

And?

It seems you lack some important informations and I recommend you to meticulously read Moutainlifter's scanlines analysis :

http://www.overclock.net/t/1573121/acer-predator-x34-displays-show-your-images-or-experience-here/370#post_24609304

- There's absoluterly no scanlines with Gsync OFF on X34, oced panel or not.
- It's different for my PG348Q, disabling Gsync don't change anything. This is the first thing I checked with Pendulum Demo before enabling overclocking.

- Scanlines tend to disappear when fps are near the max frequency defined in the OSD
So as you can see based on Mountainlifter's analysis, you set 85hz overclock, you won't see scanlines at 80-85 fps. 95hz overclock and nothing as soon as fps are at 90-95 fps.

What happen with my PG348Q? 100hz OSD and I still see scanlines at 95-100 fps. Do you understand the difference? wink.gif

I can't explain why there are scanlines even with display running at stock but I guess it could be easier for me to ask Asus for a replacement since it's a deffect happening at normal use.
Edited by Dr Mad - 2/14/16 at 10:08am
post #945 of 1177
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Originally Posted by Dr Mad View Post

And?

It seems you lack some important informations and I recommend you to meticulously read Moutainlifter's scanlines analysis :

http://www.overclock.net/t/1573121/acer-predator-x34-displays-show-your-images-or-experience-here/370#post_24609304

- There's absoluterly no scanlines with Gsync OFF on X34, oced panel or not.
- It's different for my PG348Q, disabling Gsync don't change anything. This is the first thing I checked with Pendulum Demo before enabling overclocking.

- Scanlines tend to disappear when fps are near the max frequency defined in the OSD
So as you can see based from Mountainlifter's analysis, you set 85hz overclock, you won't see scanlines at 80-85 fps. 95hz overclock and nothing as soon as fps are at 90-95 fps.

What happen with my PG348Q? 100hz OSD and I still see scanlines at 95-100 fps. Do you understand the difference? wink.gif

I can't explain why there are scanlines even with display at stock but I guess I coulb easier for me to ask Asus for a replacement since it's a deffect happening at normal use.
hey man why don't you and this guy and the other one take it to pm or some where else? you guys just say the same dammn thing over and over, it just takes two or three of you clowns to ruin everything.
post #946 of 1177
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Originally Posted by blackforce View Post

good who said they needed you for anything? i sure as hell don't ! I can make my on mind up.

You are getting all annoyed because I was writing some facts down for anyone who might want to know them, sorry if I insulted Asus.
post #947 of 1177
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Originally Posted by Radox-0 View Post

Nice pictures, does look like a good panel! Enjoy thumb.gif

Will wait for some stock to come in so I have it arrive before selling the current monitor, would be annoying if I was left without a panel then finding out on pre-order day there are not enough!

Agree on your comments in regards to the X34. Exact same panel so someone buying this or the Acer should not really be feeling burnt as such. Seems ASUS have had time to cherry pick the better performing panels which is good (or at least by the small amount of samples of reviews I have seen posted), but get a good panel with either and your all good.


I have a second one on odder now. Hopefully it will be in around the same time Scan say they will get their stock in. on the 26th. smile.gif I hope theres enough luck left to get a second good one :-/
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Originally Posted by Metros View Post

Is the contrast good on it

I am happy with the default settings. Contract is set to 50% and brightness 80%. So there's still lots to play with.
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Originally Posted by Nicholars View Post

Looks like you got a nice panel... the white uniformity looks good as well... can you post a picture of a black screen with the lights off? Also did you test for scanlines when the monitor as at 100hz Gsync, but set to 40-60fps in the pendulum demo? It seems odd how some people say they don't have any, but some do... maybe you are not doing the correct test? (you might have to have your eyes very close to the screen to actually see them) Also do you have any coil whine at all?

As I said on my first post after getting the monitor. I cannot see any scan lines in the Nvidia Pendulum demo. Tested it at 60, 50, 40-60, and supersampled, 100hz, 95hz, 85 hz, and 75hz.. Very clear clean image and very smooth. I cant take a photo without getting cross patterning, which is definitely not scanlines and completely normal when taking a photo of a CRT or LCD., but nothing can be seen with the human eye.
post #948 of 1177
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Originally Posted by Metros View Post

Just a question, did you not say a few pages back that you was leaving this thread?

I can find the "ASUS will use the same contrast on all their monitors, so it will be bad" statement

You cannot tell if gamma is too high or low in a picture, please stop making the same post

Don't bother writing me any more messages you are blocked now.
post #949 of 1177
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Originally Posted by blackforce View Post

hey man why don't you and this guy and the other one take it to pm or some where else? you guys just say the same dammn thing over and over, it just takes two or three of you clowns to ruin everything.

Why are some people (probably kids) incapable of looking at things objectively? Surely anyone reading this thread would want to know the good and bad things about this monitor and the competition? All you want to hear is "yehhhhh asus ROG best wooooo", why even look at this thread, just go and buy it then, if you don't want to know the + or - about this monitor... Why are you even in this thread?? Just buy it and see yourself then. People seem to get all attached to brands (asus, nvidia, AMD etc) and get all upset and offended about it, here is some news for you... they are not your friends... they just want your money.
Edited by Nicholars - 2/14/16 at 10:18am
post #950 of 1177
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Originally Posted by Dr Mad View Post

And?

It seems you lack some important informations and I recommend you to meticulously read Moutainlifter's scanlines analysis :

http://www.overclock.net/t/1573121/acer-predator-x34-displays-show-your-images-or-experience-here/370#post_24609304

- There's absoluterly no scanlines with Gsync OFF on X34, oced panel or not.
- It's different for my PG348Q, disabling Gsync don't change anything. This is the first thing I checked with Pendulum Demo before enabling overclocking.

- Scanlines tend to disappear when fps are near the max frequency defined in the OSD
So as you can see based on Mountainlifter's analysis, you set 85hz overclock, you won't see scanlines at 80-85 fps. 95hz overclock and nothing as soon as fps are at 90-95 fps.

What happen with my PG348Q? 100hz OSD and I still see scanlines at 95-100 fps. Do you understand the difference? wink.gif

I can't explain why there are scanlines even with display running at stock but I guess it could be easier for me to ask Asus for a replacement since it's a deffect happening at normal use.

If you look, the scan lines can happen at any refresh rate

So it could be a defect in a small amount of monitors
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