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Originally Posted by Dr Mad View Post

What don't you understand in my reports concerning PG348Q?

I'm trying to explain Metros what he clearly don't want to even take in consideration.
Where do you see someone here flaming Asus??

As both X34 and PG348Q owner, I just reported pros & cons and my conclusion is that they are almost equal.

Also, I can't stand condescending people (who are you to talk to me like that??) moreover when they don't know what they are talking about. You can't talk precisely about that monitor since you don't even ordered it... doh.gif

Your statement was wrong, scan lines happen at any refresh rate on the ACER Predator X34, look at the link you gave me, I also said about this analysis in a previous comment
post #962 of 1177
What brightness do you use your ASUS PG348Q and ACER Predator X34 at during gaming
post #963 of 1177
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Originally Posted by Nicholars View Post

Looks like you got lucky... But its very odd how you are reporting NO scanlines at all, when other people are saying they are the same, or worse than the X34... Maybe scanlines are a lottery as well or you are not looking closely enough... Can you post a pic of a black screen in a dark room?


I'll post one tomorrow evening, now I'm off out to see the revenant :-)

I'm an electronics technical engineer, not the back shed type, but blue chip company stuff, and worked on broadcast equipment occasionally. Definitely know what scan lines are, but don't see any. If people are having to look so close that their eyeballs are almost kissing the screen, maybe they are being a bit too fussy, or seeing the individual rows of pixels :-)

I've seen a few posts of images showing scan lines on the pendulum demo, one of them was very bad, but some just look like cross patterning (moiré patterning) to me from taking a photo of an LCD, so wondering how many people are getting the two things confused. If they cant see it with the human eye but only on a photo or video, they don't have a problem.
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I'll post one tomorrow evening, now I'm off out to see the revenant :-)

I'm an electronics technical engineer, not the back shed type, but blue chip company stuff, and worked on broadcast equipment occasionally. Definitely know what scan lines are, but don't see any. If people are having to look so close that their eyeballs are almost kissing the screen, maybe they are being a bit too fussy, or seeing the individual rows of pixels :-)

I've seen a few posts of images showing scan lines on the pendulum demo, one of them was very bad, but some just look like cross patterning (moiré patterning) to me from taking a photo of an LCD, so wondering how many people are getting the two things confused. If they cant see it with the human eye but only on a photo or video, they don't have a problem.

Enjoy your film smile.gif
post #965 of 1177
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Originally Posted by SRPlus View Post

I'll post one tomorrow evening, now I'm off out to see the revenant :-)

I'm an electronics technical engineer, not the back shed type, but blue chip company stuff, and worked on broadcast equipment occasionally. Definitely know what scan lines are, but don't see any. If people are having to look so close that their eyeballs are almost kissing the screen, maybe they are being a bit too fussy, or seeing the individual rows of pixels :-)

I've seen a few posts of images showing scan lines on the pendulum demo, one of them was very bad, but some just look like cross patterning (moiré patterning) to me from taking a photo of an LCD, so wondering how many people are getting the two things confused. If they cant see it with the human eye but only on a photo or video, they don't have a problem.

See, thats just it. This whole post is full of people that are being too fussy about a product they don't even own. But are looking for any reason to justify their own purchases. I am confident from the information that is coming out that the Asus is by far a better choice. Hopefully this will set a new bar for 21:9 and more manufacturers follow suit.

But making a big fuss over small issues causes an unnecessary drop in sales of 21:9 format and it hurts everyone not just ASUS.
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I think Battlefield 4 is the best one smile.gif

What brightness do you use while gaming, also did you change any setting in the OSD

Got my ASUS PG348Q, no dead pixels and stuck pixels, 100hz, no coil whine and small amount of backlight/IPS glow (Scan tested my monitor) however I cannot use it until Tuesday, as I am waiting for my EK Predator 360mm to come back
post #968 of 1177
Acer themselves commented on the scan lines... fairly straightforward explanation. I am sure some panels don't suffer with it, but this is more down to luck than anything else. I've read more issues of it occuring with the X34 than not. Too early to say how the PG348Q will fare, but it's the SAME panel and the SAME tech. It's the SAME GODDAMN MONITOR apart from the way it looks!! Jeez, people seem to lose all sense when it comes to brand allegiance!! There WILL be scan lines on the PG348Q, no doubt about it, not every single one, and there will be some who SAY they have a perfect example but just don't see it... happy days for them... but doesn't change the fact that when you buy, you run the risk. If you aren't happy with your monitor... SEND IT BACK!!

Acer's comment was as follows, and clearly there's nothing they can do about it so Asus won't be doing anything either. If you're not happy, wait until the next gen DP 1.3 ultra-wides... maybe they will be better.

"Scanlines are an effect caused by rapidly changing refresh rate. Variations in the refresh rate create an increased holding time that results in the accumulation of an electrical charge. When this charge is released, it causes small variations in the frame that result in faint horizontal lines.

We certainly appreciate everyone’s patience and the feedback that has been provided by many of you. Unfortunately, this is a side effect for cutting edge technology and while there is not a fix to be applied, we will continue to make efforts to minimize and eliminate these types of limitations in future releases."
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post #969 of 1177
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Acer themselves commented on the scan lines... fairly straightforward explanation. I am sure some panels don't suffer with it, but this is more down to luck than anything else. I've read more issues of it occuring with the X34 than not. Too early to say how the PG348Q will fare, but it's the SAME panel and the SAME tech. It's the SAME GODDAMN MONITOR apart from the way it looks!! Jeez, people seem to lose all sense when it comes to brand allegiance!! There WILL be scan lines on the PG348Q, no doubt about it, not every single one, and there will be some who SAY they don't but just don't see it... happy days for them... but doesn't change the fact that when you buy, you run the risk. If you aren't happy with your monitor... SEND IT BACK!!

Acer's comment was as follows, and clearly there's nothing they can do about it so Asus won't be doing anything either. If you're not happy, wait until the next gen DP 1.3 ultra-wides... maybe they will be better.

"Scanlines are an effect caused by rapidly changing refresh rate. Variations in the refresh rate create an increased holding time that results in the accumulation of an electrical charge. When this charge is released, it causes small variations in the frame that result in faint horizontal lines.

We certainly appreciate everyone’s patience and the feedback that has been provided by many of you. Unfortunately, this is a side effect for cutting edge technology and while there is not a fix to be applied, we will continue to make efforts to minimize and eliminate these types of limitations in future releases."

There is more within a monitor than a panel and stand, also it could have a new version of the panel
post #970 of 1177
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Originally Posted by Killathas View Post

See, thats just it. This whole post is full of people that are being too fussy about a product they don't even own. But are looking for any reason to justify their own purchases. I am confident from the information that is coming out that the Asus is by far a better choice. Hopefully this will set a new bar for 21:9 and more manufacturers follow suit.

But making a big fuss over small issues causes an unnecessary drop in sales of 21:9 format and it hurts everyone not just ASUS.

You couldn't be more wrong, and your post is insulting to those that want to discuss the issues.

Also, these companies aren't going to improve if we simply gloss over "small issues".

You're also trying to turn this into some fanboy war when it's not, actual owners of the PG348Q here have voiced complaints about the gamma and scanlines.
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