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Acer XF270HU 1440 IPS 144 Hz Adaptive Sync Thread

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ACER XF270HU AHVA 144 Hz Freesync Owners & Discussion Thread




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PC Monitors
- November 25, 2015
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144Hz AHVA (IPS-type) panel with a 2560 x 2440 (WQHD) resolution.
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Although the shape and general design is similar to the XB270HU, matte rather than glossy plastics are used for the bezel and stand.
144 Hz Monitors - November 6, 2015
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100% of the sRGB color spectrum is covered by this display and with the Flicker-Free technology, you won't experience eyestrain after longer periods of usage. The monitor is also equipped with Blue Light Filter technology.
Source - PC Centric


Product Specs

  • eColor Management
  • Acer Adaptive Contrast Management (ACM)
  • 100% sRGB color gamut
  • Mercury free
  • Flicker-Less technology
  • Low Dimming technology
  • 6-axis color adjustment
  • Blue Light Filter technology
  • FreeSync Technology
  • Horizontal Viewing Angle: 178
  • Display Type: LED-backlit LCD monitor / TFT active matrix
  • Response Time: 4 ms (gray-to-gray)
  • Aspect Ratio: Widescreen - 16:9
  • Color Support: 16.7 million colors
  • Brightness: 350 cd/m2
  • Screen Coating: Anti-glare
  • Portrait / landscape mode
  • VESA interface support
  • Dimensions (WxDxH) With stand - width: 24.6 in - depth: 9.6 in - height: 15.8 in
  • Dimensions (WxDxH) Without stand - width: 24.6 in - depth: 2.5 in - height: 14.6 in
Listed ports of the monitor include Dual-Link DVI, HDMI 2.0 (with MHL), DP 1.2a+ Adaptive-Sync, 4x USB 3.0 Downstream

Freesync™

Freesync™ Enhancements:
  • Minimum/Maximum display rate is now listed in Radeon Settings
  • Low framerate compensation to reduce or eliminate judder when application FPS falls below the minimum refresh rate of an AMD Freesync™ enabled display
  • New support for AMD Freesync™ with AMD Crossfire™ in DirectX 9® titles



Places to buy ( Normally $599.99 )

Amazon

Walmart

Provantage

Acer - UK

FOUR! USB 3.0 ports, needing extra VR hook ups anyone?
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Originally Posted by Pereb View Post

Apparently the Freesync range is 23-144Hz... Very interesting if that's true. I have no doubts the QC is still going to be poor though.
I will post pics from several angles and lighting situations when mine arrives. I am so tired of trying to find a decent monitor, and I can't live without freesync/gsync at 144hz 1440p now that I have experienced it, similar to first time I experienced my 1440p 60hz PLS panel, I just could never go back... in the same situation again, and it has been hell, I have tried high end gsync monitors, etc... so even if this has a little bad quality, I have my limits mind you... but yeah I am so tired of looking I am willing to accept a couple flaws if I have too... can't live without that high refresh and no more stuttering, ugh.

If anyone can answer my question in bold at the end of post 1, it would be appreciated.
 
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Originally Posted by caenlen View Post

Edit 1: An Acer rep said this monitor Freesync range is 23-144hz... but Crimson said all Freesync certified monitors with Crimson drivers are now ranged 0-144hz... or am I not understanding something? Also that 23 low point is amazing... beats the hell out of any other offerings right now.
The 0-144Hz part is partially true. AMD is implementing frame-doubling that kicks in when you dip below the monitor's range, BUT to function it requires the max range to be at least 2,5x the min range.
 
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Originally Posted by Pereb View Post

The 0-144Hz part is partially true. AMD is implementing frame-doubling that kicks in when you dip below the monitor's range, BUT to function it requires the max range to be at least 2,5x the min range.
Ah, so the min range being 23 on this is actually still very very beneficial... hmm this is epic. I hope there isn't too much yellowing of the panel, I may finally be set for a couple years until OLED comes out/becomes affordable, haha
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+rep to you mate, I didn't fully understand that until now
 
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Originally Posted by caenlen View Post

Ah, so the min range being 23 on this is actually still very very beneficial... hmm this is epic. I hope there isn't too much yellowing of the panel, I may finally be set for a couple years until OLED comes out/becomes affordable, haha
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+rep to you mate, I didn't fully understand that until now
I had a XB270HU that had that yellowing. Seems it's a far less prominent issue than on the PG279Q though, and the PG279Q is a different revision of the panel with a slimmer bezel area which is likely not used in that XF270HU, so maybe this one won't be so bad.
Then again I'm starting to think you won't get a quality IPS panel out of any Acer or Asus display at this point. I'm strongly leaning towards the Dell TN instead, but it's a hard decision since it's TN.
 
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Originally Posted by Pereb View Post

I had a XB270HU that had that yellowing. Seems it's a far less prominent issue than on the PG279Q though, so maybe...
Then again I'm starting to think you won't get a quality IPS panel out of any Acer or Asus display at this point. I'm strongly leaning towards the Dell TN instead, but it's a hard decision since it's TN.
Yep, like I said I had the Acer version of the Dell TN, great reviews everywhere on TFT, websites like Amazon, etc... and honestly TN colors have improved a ton, however, even sitting straight on with that monitor, the yellow and white color shifting from the viewing angle issue while browsing the web was annoying as hell, it just ruined it for me... I use my monitor 12 hours a day a lot of times, its my entire source of entertainment, reading, gaming, movies, music, you name it... worth a little extra for me for IPS... as long as I can get a decent one, even a little bleed in the corners won't bug me so much I am so desperate now, lol.... but yeah I have my limits, we will see.
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Is the yellow shift you mentioned what I can see on the viewing angles section of the TFTCentral review?


If so, the Dell seems to perform significantly better in that respect :


No doubt the TN gradient is still there and always will, but so far those IPS are plagued with significant temperature shift on top of higher than normal IPS glow, and often horrendous BLB. Pick your poison.

Another thing I'd like to point out from the TFTcentral reviews is panel uniformity :

XG270HU


S2716DG


(XG270HU, PG278Q and XL2730Z perform almost identically to XG270HU in both the viewing angle and uniformity departments)

You can see the Dell performs much better uniformity wise. Although the averages are similar, the max difference is much lower on the Dell. Maybe that's a coindidence and TFTCentral got a REALLY good sample of the Dell... or maybe Asus and Acer buy lower grade panels to increase profit margins, which would explain why many people are happy with their S2716DG in comparison to the PG278Q.
 
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Originally Posted by Pereb View Post

Is the yellow shift you mentioned what I can see on the viewing angles section of the TFTCentral review?


If so, the Dell seems to perform significantly better in that respect :


No doubt the TN gradient is still there and always will, but so far those IPS are plagued with significant temperature shift on top of higher than normal IPS glow, and often horrendous BLB. Pick your poison.

Another thing I'd like to point out from the TFTcentral reviews is panel uniformity :

XG270HU


S2716DG


(XG270HU, PG278Q and XL2730Z perform almost identically to XG270HU in both the viewing angle and uniformity departments)

You can see the Dell performs much better uniformity wise. Although the averages are similar, the max difference is much lower on the Dell. Maybe that's a coindidence and TFTCentral got a REALLY good sample of the Dell... or maybe Asus and Acer buy lower grade panels to increase profit margins, which would explain why many people are happy with their S2716DG in comparison to the PG278Q.
That is sort of what I mean. Basically your dead center with the monitor, you look at a web page, you look at top its yellowish, you look at bottom its too white, and I even calibrated it to match tftcentrals review, that Acer TN is just ugh, like I said no bad for gaming, but my monitor needs to be Art... its something I stare at the majority of my life lmao

The Dell looks promising... I may still go that route... for $499 though I'm going to this Acer a full chance, not to mention since the new Crimson drivers are decent and my 390 is kicking major butt score wise... much more pocket friendly than going Nvidia route... my 290 was $155 used I bought it 3 weeks ago or so, flashed it to 390... so getting this for $499... your talking cheaper than a 980 ti and i have badass setup... lol
 
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Originally Posted by Pereb View Post

Yeah, AMD's new drivers look promising. I wish you luck with that monitor, please report back
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Will do, and if we take into account this being a true 23-144 range, combined with the 2.5x rule... this is a better option than even the new Eizo Freesync IPS coming... because it has two freesync ranges to choose from, and I guess you have to select it on your monitor which one you want it to focus on... this Acer is just plug and play smoothness with pretty colors and no yellow glow... hopefully lol
 
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23-144hz freesync range on an IPS display would be god sent.
 
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I ended up picking one up. I'll get it tomorrow as well. What are some things you recon I should test out?
My main concern is IPS bleed(glow?). I have the brightness on my current monitor (TN panel) at 50 so I can see that at 50 on an IPS panel will be deadly
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Originally Posted by MkO611 View Post

I ended up picking one up. I'll get it tomorrow as well. What are some things you recon I should test out?
My main concern is IPS bleed(glow?). I have the brightness on my current monitor (TN panel) at 50 so I can see that at 50 on an IPS panel will be deadly
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In Crimson drivers, you can see the Freesync range listed, let us know if it really is 23-144... if it is... this is the most epic monitor ever, nothing but smoothness even if a game is hard to run lol

Also, some screenshots would be nice. Not true, I have an IPS from Samsung at the moment, well PLS, same thing, and it has no BLB or yellow glow. Some panels are just better than others.
 
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I got my monitor today!

The Crimson drivers crash in Fallout 4 causing BSOD for me. So I've only tested with 15.11.1 so far.

When it comes to Freesync, it ranges from 40 to 144Hz it seems, as the refreshrate of the screen never goes below 40Hz or above 144Hz (obviously). The refreshrate matches perfectly with the FPS within this range though.

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Proof, sorry for potato quality:



 
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@Heraji, the yellow is pretty bad, but I have seen worse. As long as it doesn't bother you when you play a game with dark scenes, like a space sim. if mine was that bad I would probably send it in for a replacement, that yellow is a touch to much.

and that is not an accurate way to measure freesync, crimson drivers specifically tell you the range of the monitor, so I will confirm it when it arrives for me, cheers.
 
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Ah well, I might consider sending it back. Not sure yet though :/

The yellow numbers on the pictures I uploaded is the screen itself telling its current refreshrate. I could not get it under 40Hz.
Unfortuantely the Crimson drivers doesn't work well with my R9 Fury STRIX, so we'll wait and see what results you get as well ^^
 
#21 ·
Alright got my monitor. Lets start. All the pictures were taken with Nikon D5100. ISO 200, shutter speed 1/60 (1/80 in some), and F 4.3 aperture.
I chose these settings because they are what most closely resembled what I saw from my eyes when It came to the backlightbleed.

This monitor was left at the downstairs on an apt building by FedEx. Not next to my door, but downstairs near the entrance. So no signature was required.
For a $600 i would expect that a signature would be required. The packaging was crap. 2 piece of brown paper and that's it. 0/10 to Amazon for shipping+handling.




On to the monitor. These first set of pictures were taken on 50 brightness. ALL of the pictures however, were taken 5 feet away from the monitor.







This blue looks terrible on this picture. In reality the blue looks much more like "blue" lol.


These are taken at 23 brightness



Here I show screen shots from the movie Interstellar (Blueray)





Final thoughts.
-IPS bleed is not so terrible. If you have flux on (like i did at first) for some reason it made the bleed much more noticeable on a black screen.
- The screen is matte. There isen't much "reflection" on the screen. Good thing.
-The stand is not glossy. Thank god. Neither is the bezel. It is very matte.
-The whites and bright colors on the IPS display looks much better then they did on my 1080p TN.
-Watching 1080p stuff, I'm not sure how to word it but, things look a little blurry. Same foes for images. Looks grainy.
- There is a this feeling of "lag" when i type or move the mouse (when i played LOL). I suspect this has to do with my GPU tho.
-I could not test FreeSYNC/144hz. yet as I have an AMD 7950...Only game i Played was LOL and it was lagging for some reason.
- Panel uniformity. There is a tint of yellow on the bottom of the screen from what i can see. It's pretty bad IMO. I couldn't get a picture good enough to show you guys but it is noticeable...Worthy of a return IMO but lets see..

I will do some more testing such as using the XB270hu ICC from tft. Going to do a side by side comparison with my TN as well.
Am I going to keep this monitor? I am leaning towards doing so but I will test it out for couple of days and see. I like it so far however.
 
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Originally Posted by MkO611 View Post

Final thoughts.
-IPS bleed is not so terrible. If you have flux on (like i did at first) for some reason it made the bleed much more noticeable on a black screen.
- The screen is matte. There isen't much "reflection" on the screen. Good thing.
-The stand is not glossy. Thank god. Neither is the bezel. It is very matte.
-The whites and bright colors on the IPS display looks much better then they did on my 1080p TN.
-Watching 1080p stuff, I'm not sure how to word it but, things look a little blurry. Same foes for images. Looks grainy.
- There is a this feeling of "lag" when i type or move the mouse (when i played LOL). I suspect this has to do with my GPU tho.
-I could not test FreeSYNC/144hz. yet as I have an AMD 7950...Only game i Played was LOL and it was lagging for some reason.
- Panel uniformity. There is a tint of yellow on the bottom of the screen from what i can see. It's pretty bad IMO. I couldn't get a picture good enough to show you guys but it is noticeable...Worthy of a return IMO but lets see..

I will do some more testing such as using the XB270hu ICC from tft. Going to do a side by side comparison with my TN as well.
Am I going to keep this monitor? I am leaning towards doing so but I will test it out for couple of days and see. I like it so far however.
From the pictures it looks like you a near perfect panel, I see no yellow tint at the bottom, but if it really bugs you and takes away from the immersion, send it back. Reason you are lagging is probably a 7950 just is not powerful enough for 1440p... not sure, try turning down the settings lower in LoL see if fps increases to where it feels smoother... not sure what the deal is there...
 
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Originally Posted by Heraji View Post

Yeah well, I'm sending mine back now. Take a look at the lower corners when playing Arma 3 in a dark map:



Hopefully I'll get more lucky next time..
Yeah, I agree that does ruin the experience to a degree, if mine is this way I too will be sending it back. Mine gets here Monday.
 
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Originally Posted by Thoth420 View Post

It's the same panel as in the MG279Q and the XB270HU. The IPS glow tends to be yellowish and the displays are not factory calibrated. How much glow varies so get ready to play swap around if you are picky.
Do you have any sources to back your claims it is the same panel? A legit source would be nice.
 
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