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Poll Results: What are the chances of one Buying this after reading the thread?

 
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post #141 of 465
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Originally Posted by Garvani View Post

Im seriously considering this monitor now.

How bad is the input lag, mainly for fps? Reviews ive seen say it isnt that bad, some other people have mentioned the lag is pretty bad. Ive never used a gsync display so im guessing i wont notice it. Coming from a 3 year old 27" 1440p acheiva shimmian would it be the same lag (if so i don't notice any wink.gif

I had the same Achieva, you will notice lag playing at 4k on ANY monitor no matter how much graphics power you have. I have yet to see a 4k monitor that didn't drop a frame or two at 4k. It's the nature of not having a cable with the bandwidth to not create a bottleneck. But the 324k is 32 inches of 100hz gaming pleasure at 2k. If you have the horsepower you don't need gsync. I paid around 350 for mine and don't regret it at all. This monitor is not very good unless you overclock it though. What I do and I'm running 2x gigabyte xtreme OC 980tis is I run the monitor at 2k overclocked to 100 hz and turn the game settings to high. That way I know I'll stay over 100fps to match the 100hz monitor, it's when there is a bottleneck of either to low or too high fps vs hz that you get lag or stuttering. Mine is about as smooth as it gets. You can game at 4k buts it's not a very good experience. We need a cable capable of 4k 120hz then it will be game on.
Edited by 19DELTASNAFU - 7/7/16 at 1:37pm
post #142 of 465
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Originally Posted by Marc79 View Post

Did not buy anything, with input lag being that high. This would be my primary gaming monitor, I wish Ryan from PCPER would do a review on this monitor. I need a 4k 60hz 32" monitor primarily for gaming nothing else. I remember him (Ryan) testing a Philips 28" 4k monitor with an insanly high input lag, not good for gaming.

No monitor running at 4k is good for gaming and they all have input lag............. at 4k. This monitor at 2k (which all the top end gaming monitors cant go with a higher resolution because of lag) overclocked to 100hz is a jewel. As good a panel as you can get for gaming............. at 2k. There are no 4k gaming monitors. I haven't pushed mine past 100hz but it dropped 0 frames at 100hz 2k. I love mine and keeping my money in my pocket.
post #143 of 465
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Originally Posted by MuscleBound View Post

any problems with the 324k after long term use? Thanks.
I am seriously wanna get one- cheap and cheerful.

Best deal out there. Overclocks to 100hz easy at 2k with no lag or stuttering. 4k is not for gaming.............yet. The cable causes input lag. Change the language to english, set mode to gaming. That's it. You start bumping up color etc etc and you will be lagging like crazy. For those who already adjusted everything, just go the the very bottom where you changed the language and reset to defaults. Gaming mode and then set a custom resolution of 2560x1440 at 100hz. No dropped frames at all. Very, very smooth. As good as the Gsync predator for less than half the cheddar. Decided to get two more. Tired of getting fragged by kids on PS3s damit. hehe
post #144 of 465
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Originally Posted by 19DELTASNAFU View Post

Best deal out there. Overclocks to 100hz easy at 2k with no lag or stuttering. 4k is not for gaming.............yet. The cable causes input lag. Change the language to english, set mode to gaming. That's it. You start bumping up color etc etc and you will be lagging like crazy. For those who already adjusted everything, just go the the very bottom where you changed the language and reset to defaults. Gaming mode and then set a custom resolution of 2560x1440 at 100hz. No dropped frames at all. Very, very smooth. As good as the Gsync predator for less than half the cheddar. Decided to get two more. Tired of getting fragged by kids on PS3s damit. hehe
So at 4k there is major input lag??
post #145 of 465
One more thing that I've read on this thread about hz, monitor size and frame rates. A high hertz monitor will not cause you to get less frame rates than a normal monitor. It's resolution that drops your frame rates. There are NO 4k gaming monitors because of the cable bottleneck causing dropped frames. The maximum number of frames you can display at 4k is 60fps. It wouldn't matter is you had 3 1080s and a game optimized to use all three at 100 percent scaling. You would only be getting 60fps due to the bandwidth capacity of the cable to the monitor. This causes dropped frames because of the frames build up waiting to be put through to the monitor and the monitor just dropping those frames trying to stay current with the output making games look laggy, the same is true in 4k, 2k, or 1080 when you don't have enough graphics horsepower to keep up with the monitor. So, because I have ALOT of power, my monitor looks best at the best average of FPS in game and hz/fps the monitor can produce. If I didn't have monster graphics hp I would go with a 120hz 1080p monitor over this one for the best experience possible. This monitor will only be utilized by gamers with a card that's cost is about the same as the monitors.... Just throwing this out there for you to make a good decision. I'll tell you now, 4k gaming sux, we're not there yet.

I believe that with graphics cards as powerful as they are and monitor technology what it is there will be considerable pressure put on the powers that be to release a cable that has the bandwidth for 4k 120hz. Sorry for the ramble.

The only thing this monitor is missing is the ability to save profiles. It would be nice to crank up the color and the deep blacks for the desk top and with one click switch to overclocked game mode. This is the only drawback I can find with this gem. At first there were several problems like screen blinking and when left on too long with no input (like all night) the screen would just go blank and not wake up with input. It had to be unplugged and then all was fine. I don't know if it was the overclocking or what but my monitor stopped all errant behavior after a while. I bought mine before this thread started I think.
post #146 of 465
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Originally Posted by MuscleBound View Post

So at 4k there is major input lag??

As there is with all 4k monitors at 60hz. Never have seen one that didn't suffer from it. But, this monitor is not as bad as most, like the 4k TVs. I've seen some where the mouse arrow left a trail. This monitor was tested on tec syndicate, the video is on youtube, and with their crude testing it lost somewhere around one to two frames per second. Where some lose 20 to 30. Here is the video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ouZbUIZh8Nw
post #147 of 465
Thread Starter 
Im about to pull the trigger on this. A tad Nervous but am Liking the style of this. I have a feeling that If I wait for the 4k 120hz monitors that will be around at the end of this year or next they will be so much more cash.

TCO

EDIT: It is Done.




Earned some money at work ( Happy Dance) So Ill take a chance on this since the Monitor essentially is "On the House" this time around. thumb.gif
Edited by TheCautiousOne - 7/11/16 at 1:10pm
     
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post #148 of 465
You'll like the monitor. It's amazing for the price. If your used to playing at 60hz then 4k will be great for you. As long as you have a good graphics card.

The guy saying that games are unplayable at 60hz has no clue what he's talking about. Don't listen to that nonsense.
Edited by schmidta99 - 7/15/16 at 11:35pm
post #149 of 465
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Originally Posted by schmidta99 View Post

You'll like the monitor. It's amazing for the price. If your used to playing at 60hz then 4k will be great for you. As long as you have a good graphics card.

The guy saying that games are unplayable at 60hz has no clue what he's talking about. Don't listen to that nonsense.
yeah 60hz is fluid as real life.
post #150 of 465
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Originally Posted by schmidta99 View Post

You'll like the monitor. It's amazing for the price. If your used to playing at 60hz then 4k will be great for you. As long as you have a good graphics card.

The guy saying that games are unplayable at 60hz has no clue what he's talking about. Don't listen to that nonsense.

I agree that they are playable, but the experience in FPS is way better at 100hz 2k. You have to have a pretty good rig though:

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