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Poll Results: What are the chances of one Buying this after reading the thread?

 
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post #31 of 464
that sounds about right... ;( HP LP3065 probably has a lag of 20 or so ms. so this is another 20ms on top of that so 40 something sounds about right. I guess for serious gaming that might not work. For regular usage I can't say I really notice it...

Guess that's just to show again HP 3065 is still a pretty good monitor... The HP 3065 has many good reviews...

The HP has minimal OSD so that could help it also. The crossover does seem to have a more extensive osd and signal processing (it does have PIP mode) but I have to agree that 40 + ms is def not very good. I would hv traded the fancy osd for better response time.
Edited by wildpig - 12/19/15 at 11:43pm
post #32 of 464
Oh, thank you for this measurements)
40ms not so good overall, but for 4k 32' monitor - not so bad, actually)
post #33 of 464
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Originally Posted by TennojiM View Post

Oh, thank you for this measurements)
40ms not so good overall, but for 4k 32' monitor - not so bad, actually)

Think so? If anyone else got any question let me know..

Just tried a Samsung UN40JU6500. not very impressed with input lag time either.... guess there is no real cheap 4k with real low input lag....
Edited by wildpig - 12/20/15 at 4:46pm
post #34 of 464
I am still confused over input lag measurement.

For comparison I saw 2 reviews of BenQ BL3201PT.

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/benq-bl3201pt-32-inch-4k-ultra-hd-monitor,4071-7.html

https://pcmonitors.info/reviews/benq-bl3201pt-bl3201ph/

The input lag are listed very differently in both. Am I reading it wrong? This is definitely important to know..

So what is the "typical" input lag for most of the 32 in 4K IPS monitors? Can we get a range from several reviews on different monitors?
post #35 of 464
There is no typical signal processing delay with these 32'', they all vary very much. Between less than half a frame and three frames. (<8ms-48ms)
Depends on the scaler that's being used.

The BL3201PT has less than half a frame and so do the U32E850R and PA328Q.
At the upper end with more than 2 frames are the B326HK, U32D970Q and this 324K.

There are so many different results because most sites employ different methods of testing. SMTT, Leo Bodnar, CRT stopwatch testing. Tomshardware use their own method.
Almost all methods not only measure the pure signal processing delay but also add some amount of the pixel response times, the screen scanning from top to bottom (Leo Bodnar) and Tomshardware also incorporates the panel refresh rate.
post #36 of 464
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Originally Posted by Marc79 View Post

Hopefully very soon I'll be testing this monitor. Reasonably priced 32" IPS 4k unlike the offerings from Samsung, LG, or TEH 'Bling' release products late Asus.

Did you receive your monitor yet?
post #37 of 464
Did not buy anything, with input lag being that high. This would be my primary gaming monitor, I wish Ryan from PCPER would do a review on this monitor. I need a 4k 60hz 32" monitor primarily for gaming nothing else. I remember him (Ryan) testing a Philips 28" 4k monitor with an insanly high input lag, not good for gaming.
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post #38 of 464
So which one are you looking at now? I was testing out the Samsung un40ju6500 and not impressed either.
post #39 of 464
Here's the input lag of Samsung un40ju6500 compared to the sceptre. 30-40 ms over the sceptre. def worse monitor than crossover. I guess these 4k tv will never be as good as a true monitor?

IMG_0482.JPG 3415k .JPG file

also mouse pointer is blurrier moving around... At least the txt is sharp at 4:4:4 4k 60hz after I change the source input type to PC IMG_0521.JPG 4686k .JPG file
Edited by wildpig - 12/21/15 at 7:22pm
post #40 of 464
Playwares measured 48ms with the SMT Tool versus versus 2ms for the BenQ BL3201PH and 4.5ms for the Qnix UHD325. 48ms is on par with the Samsung 4k TV's in the PC mode (4:4:4 support), but the Samsung 4k TV's use LED PWM Dimming which ruins motion clarity (example). The BenQ has the fastest pixel response times and no overshoot (AMA Off) while the Qnix is on par with the Crossovers best overdrive setting (Low). The Crossover has a glossy black bezel which ruins the perceived black depth, the BenQ has a matte black bezel which also decreases the perceived black depth (but not nearly as much as a glossy black bezel), and the Qnix has a two toned bezel; the out bezel is glossy black and the inner bezel is matte grey=best perceived black depth. The Crossover also has the worst colour presets, but they can still be considered good once the gamma is changed to 2.2 in the menu.

Playwares Crossover Review, Playwares BenQ BL3201PT Review and Playwares Qnix UHD 325 Review. The only advantage the Crossover has is its lower price, but this comes at the expense of image quality and severe input lag for a monitor. In some countries the BenQ ends up being the same price as the Qnix, but has a three year warranty, better stand and can easily be returned and exchanged.
Edited by MenacingTuba - 12/21/15 at 8:17pm
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