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Hey thanks for all the info I wasn't sure how to update the bIOS using the MEI could you shed light on that
Also do I need the intel VGA driver ceven if I have a discrete GPU?
Asus deluxe z97 board

I use the usb flashing tool in the bios. I think it's called EZflash 2 or something. Used it on my Z87 deluxe and H81. Just put the bios in the usb, start the tool, select the file and there you go.
Also I don't think you need the vga driver unless you want to use the integrated graphics which will rob the L4 from your cpu. I don't have it installed in mine. Usually windows has some basic functionality installed by default anyways.
Also with AISuite. I think it's fan controller is great. It is also a quicker way to mess with your oc that, at least with my Z87, doesn't change your bios so the oc only lasts until you turn the computer off.
But with my Z87 AISuite was reading my volts almost 100mv low compared to HWMonitor at least some of the times. With my h81 it reads accurately. I could check the Z87 again, but my daughter is really into her roblox. So you might want to keep an eye out for that. Intel XTU is pretty accurate though, even though it takes like 30 seconds to start.
And I sometimes have the problem with AISuite where it makes some random stuff on my desktop go transparent. I disable the minibar to stop this and set AISuite to not start with windows just to be sure and to speed up startup. Just in case it happens to you.

Congrats on the Z97 Deluxe. My Z87 Deluxe is the best mobo I've had, other than the 40 pcie lanes, extra 6 pin power for dgpu, and 5775c compatibility, it beats this EVGA classified in every way imo. I even put a 3.24a delta fan in some random fan port and the deluxe handled it just fine while this classified struggles with an aio water pump.
Edited by rluker5 - 10/21/17 at 9:41am
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Thankx for the info, repped up. I thought I read somewhere on here not to use the USB flash method or something Also wrt to the IGP driver see below
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OC is kinda classic, 4,3Ghz core (4,4 is doable but would require 1,5+v so naaah). L3 goes to 3,7Ghz 1,25v, L4 stock 1800.
I'm running on Asus Z97-AR. Memory are cheapest Crucial ballistix 1600 CL9 1,5v, managed to get them to 2133 10-11-11-28 2T.

Another burden is the L4 cache. It works correctly only when left on auto. If you select any multiplier manually it does not work. The suspicious part is that the iGPU (that I normally do not use) is still the same, but the application performance (mostly games that benefit from L4 the most) goes down a lot, to equal of having no L4 at all. The only remedy is setting back auto and making new cold start. SW restart does not fix it. Iv tried many bioses, no changed on the matter.

Anyway, even with that all, in most games it beats Skylake 6700K @ 4,5Ghz Running 3Ghz memory, so I'm quite happy with it.

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About EDRAM and gpu, you'll need the latest igpu driver to be able to manage those. Happened to me the same.

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Because the edram from broadwell doesn't act like a separated memory, it is only accessible by cpu or igpu workload and it's not visible to the system agent. Thus, you cannot control it like you do with normal RAM and a driver needs to be installed.
Intel has put this driver inside igpu driver, probably because edram was mainly introduced to eliminate the low speed and high latencies that bottleneck the igpu.

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Oh, make sure you also have the latest intel engine management interface. It's also necessary.

Edited by diggiddi - 10/21/17 at 12:11pm
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Cant seem to update bios, Using Asus bios updater keeps giving me AsIO.sys!!(2) error and using 2903.cap on usb flash not working either
Am I supposed to rename it?
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Cant seem to update bios, Using Asus bios updater keeps giving me AsIO.sys!!(2) error and using 2903.cap on usb flash not working either
Am I supposed to rename it?

Yes, you will need to download the bios renamer tool.

https://www.asus.com/microsite/2015/mb/5th_gen_Intel_CPU_ready/
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Cant seem to update bios, Using Asus bios updater keeps giving me AsIO.sys!!(2) error and using 2903.cap on usb flash not working either
Am I supposed to rename it?
I don't know anything about renaming the bios. I remember it being finicky about usb 2.0/3.0 and which port it was in. On my z87 I put it in the green usb 3.0 port if I remember correctly and can't remember if I used a usb 2.0 or 3.0 jump drive. My z87 manual recommended a usb 2.0 for better compatibility, but took this out for the z97 deluxe manual. I know that when I updated the bios on my h81 yesterday using ezflash 2, I used a usb 3.0 jump drive in a usb 3.0 port that was directly on the motherboard and it went through first try. And they say the jump drive should be formatted to fat32 and be single partition:

That other procedure mentioned looks like a pain, but maybe you have to do it like that on Asus z97.

Also I installed the iris driver and it made the edram cache recognizable on xtu, although it was already seen on aida and cpuz and my performance seems about the same on the benches I had saved. Suppose I could compare benches with purepc and sweclockers to check.
But thanks for the info it is always welcome, good luck with getting everything set.
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I was able to flash the bios by renaming the cap file to Z97D.cap The question I have is why don't they just name it beforehand instead of making us jump through all these hoops
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Yes, you will need to download the bios renamer tool.

https://www.asus.com/microsite/2015/mb/5th_gen_Intel_CPU_ready/
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Ok what's the max I can OC with a hyper 212 until I dunk this bad boy under water, using XTU is a good method right?
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My original 4790k failed. I bought this Broadwell i7 chip while waiting for the replacement from Intel.

I am so happy with the efficiency of this chip, I decided to sell the replacement 4790k.

It's currently running at 38x core / 38x cache with 1866 RAM. I haven't tried dropping the voltage any lower yet because I am waiting for my new BitFenix case fans to arrive (just replaced crappy low CFM Rosewill fans).

It's currently set to 1.155v for core and 1.155v cache. The core has a +0.010v offset and cache has +0.020v offset.

I still have all power states, c-states down-clocking and over-voltage protections enabled.

After the new higher CFM fans are in, I will find out how low the voltage goes and keep it at 38x / 38x.

 
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Guys, maybe you can help me

I had Gigabyte Z97 Gaming 5 but died few days ago, so I bought from second hand Asus Z97 Saberthoot Mark S.
PC booting, but when I trying OC, changing All Core freq to 42, state C disabled, in Windows shows all time 36.
I cant even change it in XTU

Second problem is with RAM, if I turn on XMP profile, its doesnt matter is 1 or 2, after save, PC wont boot.

I tried flash again BIOS but nothing change.

Maybe should I instal clean Windows ?

My system spec:
I7-5775C
Asus Z97 Saberthoot Mark S
2x8GB HyperX Savage 2400 MHz
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Guys, maybe you can help me

I had Gigabyte Z97 Gaming 5 but died few days ago, so I bought from second hand Asus Z97 Saberthoot Mark S.
PC booting, but when I trying OC, changing All Core freq to 42, state C disabled, in Windows shows all time 36.
I cant even change it in XTU

Second problem is with RAM, if I turn on XMP profile, its doesnt matter is 1 or 2, after save, PC wont boot.

I tried flash again BIOS but nothing change.

Maybe should I instal clean Windows ?

My system spec:
I7-5775C
Asus Z97 Saberthoot Mark S
2x8GB HyperX Savage 2400 MHz

Clearly its not OS issue... Try reseting bios first, then customizing settings once again.

As for xmp profile I've never encountered such a problem. Though I wouldn't use xmp profile anyway - its better to set ddr parameters manually. But you can try to run ur PC without overclock and with xmp first to troubleshoot the problem. If it won't help try increasing vccsa voltage, because some samples of CPU require more SA voltage to run 2400mhz memory than the others, and xmp profile usually has it increased to 1.2v(in my case). The thing is my mobo(z97-pro) won't change it when applying xmp, it will remain 0.828v, though in my case it is still almost enough to run it stable, though for prime95(and for games) I had it increased by 25mV via offset. So check it out, maybe ur mobo also doesn't change SA voltage when you apply xmp profile, which is probably for the best because 1.2V@SA is too much imo. Try increasing it gradually until you start booting and get ur memory stable in games ets.
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