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Try enabling DirectX triple buffering, dynamic vsync and, if necessary, increasing the flip queue to 4 or 5 with RadeonPro. With triple buffering, you basically trade a little bit of input latency for more smoothness, and with higher flip queues you trade even more... It's fine for games like Witcher 3, but it may be less than ideal for twitch games like CSGO.


FYI RadeonPro works fine on Windows 10 and the latest beta drivers, despite its age. You just have to run it as an administrator to detect newer games.

Thanks for the response, but that solution isn't optimal especially since the system is used for games like League of Legends too
post #12 of 28
Are you serious?
Those temps are insane.
Cooling is your issue. Crank up the gpu fans, and buy some more intake fans for your case.
You're lucky you haven't toasted those cards or something else.
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Are you serious?
Those temps are insane.
Cooling is your issue. Crank up the gpu fans, and buy some more intake fans for your case.
You're lucky you haven't toasted those cards or something else.

The R9 2XX's run hot, core temps of 90C are normal on stock clocks. I will underclock them and see how it fares though
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I'm not up on regular temps for those cards, but somehow, 194 degrees Fahrenheit, which, might I add is just below boiling, seems borderline a fire hazard, much less good, proper temps.
I'm on a different die entirely, but I have to beat the piss out of my cards to get them to hit even 50 Celsius. You seriously need to cool them properly before they damage themselves. I can guarantee this is why you are having stuttering in game.
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95c is normal for a 290x. Despite how crazy it sounds AMD set the 290x's target temperature to 95c so anything below that is considered safe on the 290x's. If he's only hitting 85-90 he still has a few degrees before the fans even speed up never mind it thermal throttling.

Something with the Crimson driver seems to have screwed with crossfire in some games because CS:GO worked fine for me until I made the switch. Maybe it has something to do with AMD's implementation of frame pacing?
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Crossfire wasn't working properly before I switched to crimson.
Here's a pic of 290x activity during a Heaven benchmark (score ~1900):


The 0-100% usage on the second card is the problem, I have no idea what's causing it
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Hey guys,
-Both cards running at stock clocks and PCIe 3.0 x8.0 (tested via gpu-z tool)

I suspect the second 290X runs at PCIe 3.0 x1.1 or similar in these situations.

Are you running anything that caps the frame rate? The only reason I can think of for the second card to drop to a lower PCI-E lane count or speed is if it's under utilized and goes into a power saving mode.
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Are you serious?
Those temps are insane.
Cooling is your issue. Crank up the gpu fans, and buy some more intake fans for your case.
You're lucky you haven't toasted those cards or something else.

His temperatures are normal and not remotely dangerous for 290X parts running at specified clocks.

Target temp is 94C and the fan won't even ramp up until this point.
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I'm not up on regular temps for those cards, but somehow, 194 degrees Fahrenheit, which, might I add is just below boiling, seems borderline a fire hazard, much less good, proper temps.

Boiling point of water has no bearing on the safe temperature of electronics.

Nothing these cards are made of will melt before 160C.

The auto ignition temperature of the most combustible substances that should be anywhere near a powered on computer are in excess of 200C.
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You seriously need to cool them properly before they damage themselves. I can guarantee this is why you are having stuttering in game.

You are completely incorrect.
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Crossfire wasn't working properly before I switched to crimson.
Here's a pic of 290x activity during a Heaven benchmark (score ~1900):


The 0-100% usage on the second card is the problem, I have no idea what's causing it

Have you tried forcing the optimize 1x1 profile for CFX in the driver settings?

Also, what do the card's clock speeds look like? Are they fluctuating during load?
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I was getting terrible fps in csgo when I upgraded to the crimson beta drivers, sometimes it would drop down to 30fps. After reverting back to the 15.11.1 drivers with catalyst control center instead of crimson, I dont have any more fps problems.
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With cores unparked, those Heaven settings, 1440p screen, and "crossfire enabled for applications without a profile":

Run 1:
FPS: 75.2
Score: 1894
Min FPS: 20.4
Max FPS: 198.6

Card 1 VRMmax = 80C
Card 2 VRMmax = 68C

Run 2:
FPS: 69.0
Score: 1738
Min FPS: 17.8
Max FPS: 199.7

Card 1 VRMmax = 80C
Card 2 VRMmax = 70C


I don't remember what core temps are, but they're normal too (ie <85-90C)
ULPS is disabled in Afterburner, I'm assuming too, right?
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95c is normal for a 290x. Despite how crazy it sounds AMD set the 290x's target temperature to 95c so anything below that is considered safe on the 290x's. If he's only hitting 85-90 he still has a few degrees before the fans even speed up never mind it thermal throttling.

Something with the Crimson driver seems to have screwed with crossfire in some games because CS:GO worked fine for me until I made the switch. Maybe it has something to do with AMD's implementation of frame pacing?

I agree with the Crimlson driver problem on CS:GO. I had to disable crossfire for this game since I use Crimson.
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