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The EU link does not have the FK lineup in stock, only ZAs.
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They are out. if u live in europe u can get one here: http://www.esportstore.com/mice/zowie-by-benq/fk2-mouse total costs around 80 euro.

Thats the guys from maxfps right? Contact link doesnt work...
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Thats the guys from maxfps right? Contact link doesnt work...

use facebook chat. they respond fast.
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Memory House is just NCIX, so it's likely you'll get one with the 16 step scroll wheel. I know that at some place for CanadaComputers they have the white one with the 24 step scroll wheel.
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I was testing the 24 notch scroll wheel in the ZA13 yesterday. There doesn't appear to be any issues with missed scrolls. I bound mwheelup and mwheeldown to +attack. The scroll wheel didn't miss a scroll going up or down.

I think the issue most people are having is unconscious accusations. If you don't pay attention you might not notice you scrolled. There is also the possibility the springs are to stiff, which might make the wheel stop between scrolls if you barely nudge it, but that was more of an issue with the 16 notch wheel.

The Kingsis wheel design doesn't have definitive scrolls like a Logitech design can have. The concept is very similar, but the execution isn't great on the Zowie mice. Two springs, a ball bearing and rounded notches isn't the best design.

Does anyone have a white logo ZA13 they want to sell?
Edited by popups - 2/29/16 at 11:28am
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I was testing the 24 notch scroll wheel in the ZA13 yesterday. There doesn't appear to be any issues with missed scrolls. I bound mwheelup and mwheeldown to +attack. The scroll wheel didn't miss a scroll going up or down.

I think the issue most people are having is unconscious accusations. If you don't pay attention you might not notice you scrolled. There is also the possibility the springs are to stiff, which might make the wheel stop between scrolls if you barley nudge it, but that was more of an issue with the 16 notch wheel.

The Kingsis wheel design doesn't have definitive scrolls like a Logitech design can have. The concept is very similar, but the execution isn't great on the Zowie mice. Two springs, a ball bearing and rounded notches isn't the best design.

Does anyone have a white logo ZA13 they want to sell?

Move the wheel half a notch up, and then back down to its original poisition.

What does the mouse register?
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The Kingsis wheel design doesn't have definitive scrolls like a Logitech design can have
and i thought logitech's encoders were bad tongue.gif
in my experience, the best optical encoders are those in the mlt04 mice. i don't mean the feel of the scrolling or the notches, but the consistency of the actuation point for a scroll.
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Move the wheel half a notch up, and then back down to its original poisition.

What does the mouse register?

If you move the Kingsis wheel half a notch it will register the scroll. So once you return back to the original position it won't register anything as the plastic piece does not break the beam of the LED. As long as the wheel doesn't get stuck in the middle of a notch after actuation there will be no issues.

Don't rest your finger on the wheel if you have an issue with negligent actuation of the wheel and make sure to scroll properly. It's similar to people complaining about the G100S having "double click" issues.

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and i thought logitech's encoders were bad tongue.gif
in my experience, the best optical encoders are those in the mlt04 mice. i don't mean the feel of the scrolling or the notches, but the consistency of the actuation point for a scroll.

I do like the feeling of the IMO and WMO scroll wheel. However, the problem with that design is the deformation of the pieces. My WMO feels great when scrolling down, however, scrolling up feels like broken plastic is hitting/grinding each other. The scroll wheel feels similar to the Zowie mice, but with more distinct notches. Zowie could make their wheel feel like the IntelliMouse wheel if they wanted.
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If you move the Kingsis wheel half a notch it will register the scroll. So once you return back to the original position it won't register anything as the plastic piece does not break the beam of the LED. As long as the wheel doesn't get stuck in the middle of a notch after actuation there will be no issues.

Don't rest your finger on the wheel if you have an issue with negligent actuation of the wheel and make sure to scroll properly. It's similar to people complaining about the G100S having "double click" issues.
I do like the feeling of the IMO and WMO scroll wheel. However, the problem with that design is the deformation of the pieces. My WMO feels great when scrolling down, however, scrolling up feels like broken plastic is hitting/grinding each other. The scroll wheel feels similar to the Zowie mice, but with more distinct notches. Zowie could make their wheel feel like the IntelliMouse wheel if they wanted.

Well the logic on the 16 step and 24 step wheel is different.

For me (and I dont have a 24 step Zowie mouse atm) the scroll would sometimes register non existant scrolls in random directions. Because there are fewer pegs than on the 16 step wheel


The 16 step wheel had no issues for me apart from being loud and uncomfortable to use in desktop environment.
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Well the logic on the 16 step and 24 step wheel is different.

For me (and I dont have a 24 step Zowie mouse atm) the scroll would sometimes register non existant scrolls in random directions. Because there are fewer pegs than on the 16 step wheel


The 16 step wheel had no issues for me apart from being loud and uncomfortable to use in desktop environment.
The issue seems to be confined to individual units. I have had this issue with the ZA12, but not yet with my FK1 (both with 24 step wheels)
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