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post #171 of 1654
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ok so is 6 X 360mm radiators enough for this build?

I think you've got it about right. I think a 60mm thick 360 style radiator is good for 400 - 430 watts. I think this article and analysis may give you the insights on 360 radiator capacities you're looking for.

If you're delivering water at 40 degrees to the hot side, what is the ambient where the radiators are located?
post #172 of 1654
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I live in AZ so 9 months out of the year around 28C inside, and for 3 months of the year around 23C inside, its hot outside most of the time.
post #173 of 1654
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its not that I am delivering the water to the TEC at the 40C temp, but that was the best that two 360mm radiators could do, with trying to cool one TEC, that had a load on the cold side.
post #174 of 1654
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Originally Posted by toolmaker03 View Post

its not that I am delivering the water to the TEC at the 40C temp, but that was the best that two 360mm radiators could do, with trying to cool one TEC, that had a load on the cold side.

Seems reasonable. I based my 400 - 430 watt statement on the following graphic from the review I mentioned.



The thicker rads are at the top (as you'd expect) and are mostly 60mm class. I believe the "coolant delta" he mentions is the incoming coolant temp (hotter) minus the incoming cold air (ambient). It's the wattage each radiator will shed for you under the conditions mentioned in the title if your hot water is 10 degrees Celsius over ambient. The wattage is higher if the delta is higher and I think you can calculate an approximate wattage from some of the other charts in his review.

It's a long article but it's really well done.
post #175 of 1654
For cooling 1.8KW, 6X 360Radators should do the job, but possibly with 15-20C delta in water temps, If its 10C above room temps now, you can safely say it will be doubble that.

Smaller output peltiers is good for a few resons, heat trasnfer needed would be less, power disipated through a larger surface area.
You get same performance as a single higher power peltier.

If you have 900W of chill now, upgrading to doubble that, which is 1.8W of power usage worth of peltiers, at full volts.
It should be more than capable of getting you subzero

Otherwize, phasechange would possibly be the onlything that could satisity you

Conseqeusnes would be the need for more waterblocks, more cables.
post #176 of 1654
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Radiator frames.
http://imgur.com/a/gRLKX
post #177 of 1654
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the radiators have SP 120's as fans and they can run at 2100RPM, and for now I will have a total of 6 80mm fans, they can run at 3400RPM, so I think it will work alright for now, I will upgrade the little 80mm fans later, for some more of the SP 120's.
for now I will be using the manual switches, to control the TEC's and I will upgrade the system later for automatic control, after I figure out what my idol and load temps will look like on this system.
post #178 of 1654
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ok so a few others have mentioned using A/C tubing foam insulation for my tubing the stuff is cheap so I will give it a try and cover all my tubing on the cold side with it, and if it does not work, I can always replace it with clay.

I will still be using the clay on the TEC assembly and the chest.

ok so this is a large build, and I have built a lot of frames for the hardware so far. the reason that I have built all these frames is because, I plant to use this cooling solution for a long time. My current PC setup, I am guessing, I could get another 3 years out of it, before I will need to upgrade it. When I do upgrade to a new PC setup, I will use this same cooling solution for the new system. So I am building it to last.
post #179 of 1654
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post #180 of 1654
Finally! Something I can see. All of those diagrams were nice, but it's good to see some actual hardware redface.gif

Looking good!
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4x4GB GSKILL @ 2133MHz WD 1002FAEX KINGSTON V300 120GB SSD SanDisk Ultra Plus 128GB SSD 
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WD Green 500GB Cryorig R1 Ultimate Windows 10 Enterprise Acer XB270HU Predator 
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