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post #281 of 1657
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well I almost finished the cold side display frame.
the reason these frames are such a pain, is that every one of the bay devices, connect to it a little different than the others.
http://imgur.com/a/iq3QF


anyway that's the last one like this, so I am done with these frames.
post #282 of 1657
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ok, so all I have left is the power supply frames and the ice chest. I make that sound so easy wheee.gif
post #283 of 1657
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ok so as I have shown I am really trying to keep this build as simple as possible, and by all means I am slamming it together. even with that, it is still going to take me a total of 6 months to build this rig. so for anyone that is considering a build of this size, and would like to make it look nice, a task of that magnitude may take a year or better to complete.
I not trying to discourage anyone, only trying to express that doing something like this has to be something that one really wants to get done, otherwise it sits on a shelf or table for years, and never really does.
life gets in the way, and on a project this large that may happen several times before completion. like I said, this is my hobby, so I enjoy the outcome, not really the work, but I like the finished product.
post #284 of 1657
Progress!
Behemoth
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Intel i7 4790K "Relidded" @ 5ghz <50c Asus Sabertooth Z97 MK1 Custom WC'd 7970 3GB @ 1100/1500 stock volts Custom WC'd 7970 3GB @ 1100/1500 stock volts 
RAMHard DriveCoolingCooling
2X4GB Patriot Viper Extreme 1TB Velociraptor 10k RPM w/ 64MB Cache Two Arqtik TEC Chillers in Series Archimedes TEC block w/TN660 TEC 
CoolingCoolingCoolingCooling
Two Ported/tapped MCP655 Pumps 2x Black Ice GTX 480 Gen2 Rads DD dual drive bay Res with LCD water temp monit... GPU Loop: Modded Enzotech Sapphire CPU blocks, ... 
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36x Globe 120mm 80cfm server fans Win 10 Pro Mint 15(KDE) 4K 28" Samsung U590D 
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Logitech G710+ Mechanical CM Silent Power M 1000watt Main, OCZ Z850W Slave Custom Mountain Mods Extended-Extended Ascension Logitech G502 Proteus 
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Homemade 16ga 304 Stainless pad, Neoprene backed Aune T1 DAC Various Tubes: Mostly switching from 60's GE "S... AKG K7XX Headphones 
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Intel i7 4790K "Relidded" @ 5ghz <50c Asus Sabertooth Z97 MK1 Custom WC'd 7970 3GB @ 1100/1500 stock volts Custom WC'd 7970 3GB @ 1100/1500 stock volts 
RAMHard DriveCoolingCooling
2X4GB Patriot Viper Extreme 1TB Velociraptor 10k RPM w/ 64MB Cache Two Arqtik TEC Chillers in Series Archimedes TEC block w/TN660 TEC 
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Two Ported/tapped MCP655 Pumps 2x Black Ice GTX 480 Gen2 Rads DD dual drive bay Res with LCD water temp monit... GPU Loop: Modded Enzotech Sapphire CPU blocks, ... 
CoolingOSOSMonitor
36x Globe 120mm 80cfm server fans Win 10 Pro Mint 15(KDE) 4K 28" Samsung U590D 
KeyboardPowerCaseMouse
Logitech G710+ Mechanical CM Silent Power M 1000watt Main, OCZ Z850W Slave Custom Mountain Mods Extended-Extended Ascension Logitech G502 Proteus 
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post #285 of 1657
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http://imgur.com/K9pEtPv


ok so here is one of the things that I will be playing around with.
I will try to explain this ok so I will have clay on the cold side CPU water blocks I will stop the clay right at the TEC's cold side.
by doing this I know that there will be a layer of ice forming on the clay right around the TEC.
I will add clay the first time to bring the clay to the center of the TEC. and see what that does.
if it's not enough I will add another layer of clay and bring the clay to the end of the hot side of the TEC.
my hope is that at some point, I do not have Ice forming on the clay but only water, I do not want to cover the hot side water blocks at all.
post #286 of 1657
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one of the fun things about this build is all the thermal dynamics going on, keeps me busy thinking all the time.
here is another thermal issue that I am and will deal with.
the pumps for the cold side of the loop are D5 water pumps, and these pumps are cooled by the liquid going through them, there is a possibility that the liquid will be too cold, and the pump will get too cold, I am covering the entire water pump in clay, and I will have a temp sensor on the pump motor to see how warm it is staying.
what if the pump still gets too cold? I have considered using a small pond heater attached to the back side of each pump, to fix the issue, I have also considered changing the pumps out for DDT pumps, and getting the air fin upgrade for them, installing a couple more fans to keep them cool, as they run a lot hotter than the D5.
see what I mean by all the fun thermal dynamics occurring within a system like this. devil.gif
post #287 of 1657
Yeh, i thought Laing had public specs on min & max operating temp
Turns out they only have Max operating temp - 140 `F / 60`C
They probably assume that nobody is going to pump brine/sludge below 0`C , so their unofficial min temp is probably 2-4`C
http://documentlibrary.xylemappliedwater.com/wp-content/blogs.dir/22/files/2013/01/SS-05R1_E5-Plastics.pdf

Now i *have* seen some specs somewhere in the past and i *think* Min operating temp was 4`C for water (might hve been specs for eHeim)

Probably it *can* operate at (much) lower temps as long as you're pumping a liquid. So if you can pump something that remain liquid at -20`C for exmple that has no properties that would melt the housing o-ring, components.. it should work.
Of course, you may have condensation forming IN the housing, near the circuit board and that would be "a bad thing"

Have you considered using a Grundfoss circulation pump... some of their models ARE designed to pump sludge
post #288 of 1657
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my liquid operating range should be from -10C to 10C, it would be really cool if I could hold a -20C with this system, but I don't think that will happen.
so the system is not going to be that cold, but still it is cold enough to cause issues, this is why I think that covering the pumps in clay, will be enough to keep them warm, so that I do not have any of those issues.
but like I said, I will have a temp sensor on the pump motor to monitor the situation, and I will make adjustments to the build as needed, so that it is operational for the long run.
post #289 of 1657
yup

Now in theory you could wind copper wire around the housing.. and because the magnetic "sweep" that makes the rotor turn would also be picked up by this wound coil.. and since that magnetic field has nowhere to go (except interfere with the motor) and just be trapped by the coil.... it *should* heat up the coil thereby keeping the housing warm.

But i'm not sure about the number of turns/windings, the thick/thinness of the wire and if you need to add an extra elco to this secondary outside winding.... but i'm not sure, i think i am overlooking something here :0

But there are alternatives :





Just teasing you a bit smile.gif
I keep following how/where this is going thumb.gif
post #290 of 1657
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the CLR CMOS switch plate
http://imgur.com/Lw1cGSl
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