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post #631 of 1680
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Originally Posted by toolmaker03 View Post

once again, if anyone has any ideas for the ice chest, I would like to hear them, as it might help to make this rig a sustainable cooling solution.

I'm not falling for that again! rolleyes.gif
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T-9 minutes and counting

Start automatic ground launch sequencer
Retract orbiter access arm (T-7 minutes, 30 seconds)
Start auxiliary power units (T-5 minutes, 0 seconds)
Arm solid rocket booster range safety safe and arm devices (T-5 minutes, 0 seconds)
Start orbiter aerosurface profile test, followed by main engine gimbal profile test (T-3 minutes, 55 seconds)
Retract gaseous oxygen vent arm, or "beanie cap" (T-2 minutes, 55 seconds)
Crew members close and lock their visors (T-2 minutes, 0 seconds)
Orbiter transfers from ground to internal power (T-50 seconds)
Ground launch sequencer is go for auto sequence start (T-31 seconds)
Activate launch pad sound suppression system (T-16 seconds)
Activate main engine hydrogen burnoff system (T-10 seconds)
Main engine start (T-6.6 seconds)

T-0

Solid rocket booster ignition and liftoff!


Launch that sucker! band.gif
Edited by OCAddict - 6/8/16 at 4:17am
post #632 of 1680
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ok, so the ice chest is sealed thumb.gif
next step is to assemble the rest of the rig, I am figuring about 3 to 4 days to complete that.
step 2 fill the hot and cold side loops and test them 3 days
step 3 test each TEC individually than do a full setup test of the TEC assembly 3 days
step 4 test the PC components for functionality 1 day
step 5 reseal the lid and begin the gas exchange process 7 days
step 6 start the process of finding stable clocks for all of the hardware 5 days(maybe more)
step 7 post 3Dmark benchmarks with the new clocks on the hardware 3 days
step 8 start playing games. biggrin.gif
my hope is that it will run for the next 3 years without any major issues, if so, after the 3 years, I will get a top of the line system to install into this cooling solution, I will seal it inside the ice chest for the next 8 years, continually clocking the hardware further, as the games become harder for the hardware to handle.

as for the upgrades going on this system, I will first finish getting all of the stinger relays for the TEC's, I still need two more of them. than I will start building a second TEC assembly, as I am planning on testing out how well a cascade water chiller might work. this will take some time to complete, years to complete, I am in no hurry. I have 8 to 10 years to get it all done, and it will probable take me about half of that time to actually get it all done. after that, I don't know, I have not thought that far in advance. I have considered the possibility that will need more TEC's to make this build a reality, if so, I will have to move up my time line to now, and get it all of it done for this rig to function.
post #633 of 1680
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ok, so I am starting to assemble the rest of the build and I needed a stand for the ice chest, and I am going to put half of the extra foam on the exterior of the ice chest. I am going to put two layers on the bottom and one layer around all of the sides. I will cover the foam with plastic wrap, but for now the foam will stop at the lid of the ice chest, I will finish the foam when I am ready to seal the lid for the last time. the soft copper lines going from the pumps to the lines coming out of the ice chest, are a little harder to do than I thought they would be I might get some more 90 degree fittings to make this a little easier to complete. I will be covering all of these copper lines and the pumps with clay to prevent any condensation from forming on them. I will also have a temp sensor on the cold side pump to monitor how cold or hot the pump gets. the build going inside the ice chest is a Chinese puzzle box every thing has to be done in a particular order for it to work. if any of the parts are assembled in the wrong order I will have to take it back apart and do it again. redface.gif yea, I have already messed this up once, and I will probable do it again. it is coming along I will have pics up soon, once I figure out exactly what I need to do correctly. tongue.gif
post #634 of 1680
Honestly i wouldnt even bother covering the chect unless you run it and it needs it. I cant imagine the outside condensing much - coolers keep cold IN very well, thats their job.
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CPUMotherboardGraphicsGraphics
Intel i7 4790K "Relidded" @ 5ghz <50c Asus Sabertooth Z97 MK1 OC'd RX580 8GB OC'd RX580 8GB 
RAMHard DriveCoolingCooling
2X4GB Patriot Viper Extreme 1TB Velociraptor 10k RPM + Crucial 128GB SSD Two Arqtik TEC Chillers in Series Archimedes TEC block w/TN669 TEC 
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Two Ported/tapped MCP655 Pumps 2x Black Ice GTX 480 Gen2 Rads DD dual drive bay Res with LCD water temp monit... GPU Loop: Modded Enzotech Sapphire CPU blocks, ... 
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Intel i7 4790K "Relidded" @ 5ghz <50c Asus Sabertooth Z97 MK1 OC'd RX580 8GB OC'd RX580 8GB 
RAMHard DriveCoolingCooling
2X4GB Patriot Viper Extreme 1TB Velociraptor 10k RPM + Crucial 128GB SSD Two Arqtik TEC Chillers in Series Archimedes TEC block w/TN669 TEC 
CoolingCoolingCoolingCooling
Two Ported/tapped MCP655 Pumps 2x Black Ice GTX 480 Gen2 Rads DD dual drive bay Res with LCD water temp monit... GPU Loop: Modded Enzotech Sapphire CPU blocks, ... 
CoolingOSOSMonitor
36x Globe 120mm 80cfm server fans Win 10 Pro Mint 15(KDE) 4K 28" Samsung U590D 
KeyboardPowerCaseMouse
Logitech G710+ Mechanical CM Silent Power M 1000watt Main, OCZ Z850W Slave Custom Mountain Mods Extended-Extended Ascension Logitech G502 Proteus 
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post #635 of 1680
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well, got the foam because the test builds ice chest did sweat on the out side of the ice chest, right at the bottom of the ice chest where there is no foam between the plastic, there it is only plastic, that is why I am planning on doubling up the foam at the bottom of this ice chest. although this build may not get as cold on the inside as the test build did, when I only had the TEC's on cooling the water only. with this build I will also have the PC running every time that the TEC's are running. I still don't want water all over the table top either, one of my objectives is to make this a build that does not have any condensation occurring on any part of it. I have already got the foam for doing this, it would be easier to apply it now, than to wait and see if I have condensation occurring on the outside of the ice chest, and apply it later, as would have to disconnect the soft copper lines and make them longer to add it later. if its not needed, it is not as if it will be in the way of anything, it will just make it a little harder for the cold to escape from the ice chest. plus if I need to add the second TEC assembly to the build now for this build to work right, than I really think that it would get cold enough inside the ice chest, to cause a lot of condensation on the outside of the ice chest. so I will add the foam to the ice chest at this point, and if it really is not needed, than can always remove it when I do the upgrade to a new PC system here in a couple of years.
Edited by toolmaker03 - 6/9/16 at 10:25am
post #636 of 1680
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http://imgur.com/OsJOncI

well that's what it looks like covered in the foam. I don't think it looks bad, in fact I think it looks better. when I finish the build and seal the lid, I will finish the foam out then cover it all with plastic wrap.
post #637 of 1680
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Originally Posted by Puck View Post

Honestly i wouldnt even bother covering the chect unless you run it and it needs it. I cant imagine the outside condensing much - coolers keep cold IN very well, thats their job.

I totally agree!
post #638 of 1680
Thread Starter 
ok, so I am assembling to parts that go the inside the ice chest. first thing I need to do, is connect all of the wiring, except for the rear panel, then the fans get installed onto the PC case, after that the reservoir is connected on top of the PC case and rest on the fans frame. I need to have all the strings attached to the wire, so the I can pull on them as I am inserting the assembly into the ice chest. I will have pics up tomorrow, or the next day, showing all of the stages.
post #639 of 1680
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ok, so I had to take the assembly going inside the ice chest apart again for the second time, because of the camera. as I am inserting the assembly into the ice chest if the camera wire grabs on any thing it moves the camera, so this time I am placing a drop of epoxy on all of the camera joints after I get back into the correct position. this time I really do not think that it will move any more as I am inserting the assembly into the ice chest.
i am sure that this will not be the last little issue i have with this rig, but i will get it together, and it will function when i am done.
Edited by toolmaker03 - 6/12/16 at 5:12pm
post #640 of 1680
What do you think the long term viability of this cooling actually is?

I kinda understand you are doing it as experimental curiosity, but the cost related to this in money, and time invested, is astronomical, so you cannot feasibly think anyone else will be duplicating this setup, do you?

Most are sitting back with their popcorn popped watching you do all this, because they sure are not going to do it, no matter how it turns out.

I know from past dealings with you at Toms Hardware that you have a one track mind when it comes to things like this, but this has been such a major undertaking I am concerned that if the end results are hope shattering, that you don't go into depression over it.

I truly hope for you, that you can take an Oh Well! attitude, no matter what happens.

FYI: I am having my account deleted at Toms Hardware because I no longer believe in the direction the website is going, and will no longer support it with my own personal work, or be a part of it anymore!

I respect you, and your curiosity, and I want to see the best for you, that is why I am expressing this concern for you.

Ryan
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