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You must be joking, people were still using Cyrix chips? I'd rather use those super overheating Pentium Overdrives than Cyrix, they were that bad.
Yeah, mostly in office settings or people who just used them to surf the Internet. For a while, I had a source of K6-2+ and K6-III+ chips from China that I could use to upgrade them, but eventually, that dried up and I started using other cheap parts. By 2005, even the K6-III+ parts were kind of long in the tooth anyway. A couple of years ago, I tried going online with one, and it just choked on anything with heavy Javascript. Even a P3-850 I had was pretty much unusable. I don't recommend anything below a C2D for anything these days.

The only PODP I ever used was the version for Socket 8, which was just a Pentium II Xeon on a Socket 8 adapter card. There are still some people on Vogons who swear by the Socket 3 version for their old systems, but I'd rather have an AMD 5x86 anyday. The PODP5V83 was almost as much of a pain in the butt as Cyrix 5x86 parts were. The AMD's just worked. The first Windows PC I ever had at home was a Dell Precision 486/33S that eventually had an AMD 5x86 dropped into its upgrade socket. Worked perfectly.
     
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The good old days of total compatibility, how I miss them. Ever since IBM ceased to be the big name in PC's Intel stopped playing nice and refused to cooperate with AMD on these things.

 

You are right on the internet, anything older than the Core and Athlon X2 line is now obsolete unless you totally strip websites off images and scripts. Even for Linux I wouldn't recommend anything less than a dual core chip unless it's a very stripped down version of Linux running on something like a router or some kind of NAS (both FreeNAS and pfSense are BSD based just to be clear).

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The good old days of total compatibility, how I miss them. Ever since IBM ceased to be the big name in PC's Intel stopped playing nice and refused to cooperate with AMD on these things.
What happened is that the K6-2 was so good relative to the Intel alternatives that when it came time for AMD to renew its x86 license, Intel played hardball and refused to license Intel socket/slot infrastructure to AMD anymore. The K6-series had made it possible for people to keep their old Pentium MMX boards and get Pentium II-class performance via a simple drop-in replacement, or at most, an adapter from PowerLeap or Computernerd.

That was how AMD made a lot of its money up to that point. The best all-around chips you could buy for 386, 486, and 586 sockets all came from AMD. They waited for Intel to abandon a platform, then made better options for it, better than the entry-level solutions from Intel's next-gen platforms. Intel got tired of it and made AMD develop its own sockets, although they kept using the same footprint on the motherboard all the way up to Intel hauling out LGA775. When Intel abandoned Slot 1 for S370, AMD immediately switched from Slot A to S462.

Intel actually did allow Cyrix to continue to use Intel sockets going forward, showing that they didn't see Cyrix as a serious threat to them. When VIA ended up controlling Cyrix and its x86 license, they used it for years to make S370 and S479 parts before Intel called a halt to it.
     
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good morning to all, today i ve sent the cpu back, lets see...
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Did you ever actually update the BIOS?
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Did you ever actually update the BIOS?

till now no, didnt find any free time to do it BUT to make sure i ve checked the msi motherboard on their site and the version of the bios is the same that i have so im ok, but i ll update the bios later on


http://us.msi.com/product/motherboard/support/A88XM-E35.html#support-cpu

Athlon X4 Kaveri AD860KXBI44JA 860K 100 3.7 4M N/A A1 95 N/A 7721vU3.zip

i have this version for the bios and the 860k cant play at all...

dont worry, i ll find sometime in the week end to upgrade bios if not i ll post it here just to mention it, i hope with the new 860k wont have any problem

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Its possible I guess, but bad CPU's are extremely rare, especially right out of the box. Guess we'll see when the new one comes.
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Its possible I guess, but bad CPU's are extremely rare, especially right out of the box. Guess we'll see when the new one comes.

i hope that they will change it with a good one and i ll be quad cored at last !

cmos cleared
bios reset
etc...

i did all the steps but nothing, anyway, i believe in a month wave2.gif they will send it the new one, it took 13 days to send it the first time...
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Phenom lacks a lot of instructions compared to Kaveri.You can t compare them for real.
The 860K seems faster than my Phenom 2 975 no doubt about it.
   
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hola to all, just today i ve got my new [replaced] amd 860k quad core, i will find sometime in saturday and i will install it
wish me luck biggrin.gif


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Athlon X4 Kaveri AD860KXBI44JA 860K 100 3.7 4M N/A A1 95 N/A 7721vU3.zip


Athlon X4 Kaveri AD860KXBI44JA 860K 100 3.7 4M N/A A1 95 N/A 7721vU3.zip


the 7721vU3.zip is the requested bios version and i have it already so i guess everything will be ok, i will reset bios and then i will clear cmos and then instal the new cpu


i hope that it will work...........


have a nice noon all of you
Edited by gigatiger - 2/11/16 at 7:16am
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