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There will be no SP1 from all indications. W10 is a service and will constantly be evolving.

They changed their PR slightly, but underneath they are doing things in mostly the same way - even PR-wise when you get to the bottom of it - in terms of product development. SP1 has been announced a long time ago, it's "Redstone". It's not naive why they gave it a name and sites have been talking about it for so long - since April 7th of 2015, almost four months before Windows 10 even hit RTM!

They're not Service Packs as we knew them. 8.1 was a new ISO. Threshold 2 was a new ISO. Redstone will likely be a new ISO.

I'm fairly sure they've given up completely with patch updates due to the possibility of corruption, failure and errors making headaches to support... so each new version will likely be a whole new version update. It actually makes sense from a support standard.

And no, it's not going to be easy to support... which is why they've stopped doing the patching. W10 desktop/laptop, W10 Enterprise, W10 Server, W10 xbox, w10 phone and whatever other versions they'll need to support.

As for the rest of what you've said, you're preaching to the choir.
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They're not Service Packs as we knew them. 8.1 was a new ISO. Threshold 2 was a new ISO. Redstone will likely be a new ISO.


Microsoft considers 8.1 a Service Pack to 8. Yes, an SP not as we knew them, that definition has long been distorted by them as I said.
 
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Consumers Warn Windows 10 Has Serious Problems.

What now? Steam OS? Buy a Mac? Go outside and get a new hobby?
Maybe computers aren't worth the trouble. Microsoft is seriously hurting the PC industry, but maybe that's what they want if they're trying to move to a hardware based sales model.

I can see W10 and subsequent iterations do more to make PC gaming actually be dying [...but not that it would kill it off completely]. The topic of "Linux/SteamOS gaming PC or PS5" will be seen more often than you'd think in the coming years.
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Microsoft considers 8.1 a Service Pack to 8. Yes, an SP not as we knew them, that definition has long been distorted by them as I said.

I think that was a kernel upgrade. 8 - 8.1

I'll stay on 6.1 as long as possible.

I find it amusing that those that equate this to Vista and how great Vista was after the first SP don't even know the first SP removed the Vista Kernel and added in the XP server kernel. Lol
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If they weren't so interested in running 10 on an apple-esqe model it would help. But that safer place, yeah rolleyes.gif

For one thing if they don't iron out the kinks in network sharing features sooner rather than later Troian will be running on 7 Ultimate as originally planned
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If they weren't so interested in running 10 on an apple-esqe model it would help. But that safer place, yeah rolleyes.gif

For one thing if they don't iron out the kinks in network sharing features sooner rather than later Troian will be running on 7 Ultimate as originally planned

Correct me if I'm wrong but when it comes to changes in their release cycle policy, it was actually motivated by the consumer, who got used to relatively easy - free upgrades to their OS. Just like the android / iOS release cycles.
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All I really want from MS for Windows 10 is:

1. Aero theme available with translucent menu bar and round edges

2. allow me to decide when updates are installed. Its fine if its on auto install by default

3. no fishy services running in the background that is constantly phoning in to microsoft.


Most annoying thing is that these were all features they already had and took away as some sort of "improvement"
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Correct me if I'm wrong but when it comes to changes in their release cycle policy, it was actually motivated by the consumer, who got used to relatively easy - free upgrades to their OS. Just like the android / iOS release cycles.
Well that's a shame. Those of us who prefer to run and take care of our own machines can't anymore because MS has to cater to to masses. Shame! mad.gif
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All I really want from MS for Windows 10 is:

1. Aero theme available with translucent menu bar and round edges

2. allow me to decide when updates are installed. Its fine if its on auto install by default

3. no fishy services running in the background that is constantly phoning in to microsoft.


Most annoying thing is that these were all features they already had and took away as some sort of "improvement"

+1

Windows 8/10 are fugly. Aero is the bees knees.
    
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+1

Windows 8/10 are fugly. Aero is the bees knees.

Aero is awful. Good riddance to excessive faux glass.
    
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