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It is the CPU. The game is very "single threaded" dependant in that area. This reduces the scalability of multi GPU's, causing a performance bottleneck. In tombs and other locations, there is less CPU time allocated and more dependancy on the GPU's, hence the better scaling. This is because of poor programming. They likely had DX12 in mind to overcome these limitations because it's hard to efficienty program good multi core usage in the DX11 API. Why they stopped the DX12 version, we can only speculate.

If the game is heavily single threaded,why is the FX 8350 beating the i7 3770K in this game?
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If the game is heavily single threaded,why is the FX 8350 beating the i7 3770K in this game?

Without any source to that claim I can't comment can I? There are an absolute aggloromation of variables to take into account when testing a key area such as thread dependancy.
Edited by BradleyW - 2/15/16 at 7:36am
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I have G3258, if the game was highly single threaded, it should run much better on my system, but even when my processor is being utilized till 99%, it is having a hard time maintaining a smooth 30fps.
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I have G3258, if the game was highly single threaded, it should run much better on my system, but even when my processor is being utilized till 99%, it is having a hard time maintaining a smooth 30fps.

Just because a game is highly single threaded, it does not mean the other cores are useless. The game "needs" 3 cores and a 4th for the OS for good performance, but most of the work is done on a single core. You can't throw in a bunch of different CPU's into the mix because the game will cator towards certain architectures and intruction sets.
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It is the CPU. The game is very "single threaded" dependant in that area. This reduces the scalability of multi GPU's, causing a performance bottleneck. In tombs and other locations, there is less CPU time allocated and more dependancy on the GPU's, hence the better scaling. This is because of poor programming. They likely had DX12 in mind to overcome these limitations because it's hard to efficienty program good multi core usage in the DX11 API. Why they stopped the DX12 version, we can only speculate.

If the game is heavily single threaded,why is the FX 8350 beating the i7 3770K in this game?
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Without any source to that claim I can't comment can I? There are an absolute aggloromation of variables to take into account when testing a key area such as thread dependancy.

I guess that depends on your definition of "beating" , it may have better average FPS, but the minimum frames are lower. From my experience, deeper drops in frames are more jarring. Warning: Yet another benchmark (Click to show)
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Just because a game is highly single threaded, it does not mean the other cores are useless. The game "needs" 3 cores and a 4th for the OS for good performance, but most of the work is done on a single core. You can't throw in a bunch of different CPU's into the mix because the game will cator towards certain architectures and intruction sets.

^This is what I have noticed too, 1 core very high usage, 2 cores high usage, and one core medium usage. And the rest of them just sit around at 0%, acting smug... like they cant pitch in.
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Even with the bad performance its much better to play than Witcher 3 is for me @ 4K. Loving this game so far. For 2016 I think this will be my favorite SP game.
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Even with the bad performance its much better to play than Witcher 3 is for me @ 4K. Loving this game so far. For 2016 I think this will be my favorite SP game.

It's still quite early in the year to declare that, no?
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It's still quite early in the year to declare that, no?

I don't play many games. Witcher 3 was my favorite game for 2015. Did not play anything after it. I probably play 2-3 AAA max each year because I like to fully complete them.
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I don't play many games. Witcher 3 was my favorite game for 2015. Did not play anything after it. I probably play 2-3 AAA max each year because I like to fully complete them.

Right-on. I tend to bite off more than I can chew, but this game will certainly be completed by me. It really is well done.
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Right-on. I tend to bite off more than I can chew, but this game will certainly be completed by me. It really is well done.

I am going to go back and play TR 2013 after this because I want to play it @ 4K and only rushed the main story for 13 hours.
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