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Anyone else feel that the tomb raider series have become almost ..... sugarcoated air. Dont get me wrong, i like the game but the last few just seem so ... meh compared to the older ones where you had to do more than just run from A to B. No box sliding (staple of TR series), swinging from a rope (another staple), multi room puzzles (not these one room puzzles we have now. We had to move statues, swim under water, fly in airplanes, drive cars. Rooms desinged to make you miss things. Its like Tomb Raider has been reduced to ...... running, hanging and buying DLC to get the tombs to raid.

Dont get me wrong, the games have never looked as good as they do now but with all the new fancy graphics there is nothing left to study where we need these high res textures. I would have to walk around the room before trying to make sense of the crude textures and now I see everything almost photoreal but its not used to improve the game play. You use to have to fight for every foot of ground, now you push a button and the way is lit for you to follow.
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So I posted some graphs, here is one from just now in geothermal valley in an intense gunfight scene with exploding barrrels and headshots galore going through trinity. This is without the original bits fix and using just the updated drivers, still 6700k at 4.9ghz.




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I see two of the cores more utilized than others, but I don't really see where you are referring to a cpu bottleneck being as absurdly bad as the discussion seems to make it. I have posted 10 graphs now and seen no cpu usage pinned to 100%. We agreed at the beginning of these threads somewhere that maybe it was time for you to upgrade to current hardware but there seems to be a constant push from you to pin the issue on the game. Hopefully you can find the data you need from seeing the game on newer hardware. Expensive yes, but aren't max settings made for people who spend the dough? Or should I spend $5k and play at your settings? Just saying....
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Anyone else feel that the tomb raider series have become almost ..... sugarcoated air. Dont get me wrong, i like the game but the last few just seem so ... meh compared to the older ones where you had to do more than just run from A to B. No box sliding (staple of TR series), swinging from a rope (another staple), multi room puzzles (not these one room puzzles we have now. We had to move statues, swim under water, fly in airplanes, drive cars. Rooms desinged to make you miss things. Its like Tomb Raider has been reduced to ...... running, hanging and buying DLC to get the tombs to raid.

Dont get me wrong, the games have never looked as good as they do now but with all the new fancy graphics there is nothing left to study where we need these high res textures. I would have to walk around the room before trying to make sense of the crude textures and now I see everything almost photoreal but its not used to improve the game play. You use to have to fight for every foot of ground, now you push a button and the way is lit for you to follow.

Not really because I never played the old TR. I would thing because of graphics you just can't have the same effect as old TR.
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Not really because I never played the old TR. I would thing because of graphics you just can't have the same effect as old TR.

I am thinking of replaying tomb raider 2013 as well. The experience I had with 7970 CF at the time was not at all what I have now and I missed the immersion worrying too much about framerates and settings.
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I am thinking of replaying tomb raider 2013 as well. The experience I had with 7970 CF at the time was not at all what I have now and I missed the immersion worrying too much about framerates and settings.

I thought it would be easy t run MAX settings @ 4K with 2 x R9 290s but I was wrong. TressFX 1.0 is really taxing compare to PureHair but only in close-ups. I think it looks better close up too. PureHair is a simplified version. In general though comparing the 2 games @ 4K the new games just looks a lot better. Texture quality is higher and image is sharper. That being said 2013 still looks very good. I think the new game is easier though. Already did 4 tombs and they where all simple.
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The experience I had with 7970 CF at the time was not at all what I have now and I missed the immersion worrying too much about framerates and settings.

did you come over and listen to me complain about 2013 on release or something? Because that could have just as easily come out of my mouth! 7970s and eyefinity...I dont miss that headache. I think I have more hours on the benchmark than on missions. Wonderful cards on their own though.
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I thought it would be easy t run MAX settings @ 4K with 2 x R9 290s but I was wrong.
I am in the same boat with 980s...had to settle with some high.
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TressFX 1.0
man....I dont know about that one. It was a resource hog and kind of buggy.
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did you come over and listen to me complain about 2013 on release or something? Because that could have just as easily come out of my mouth! 7970s and eyefinity...I dont miss that headache. I think I have more hours on the benchmark than on missions. Wonderful cards on their own though.
I am in the same boat with 980s...had to settle with some high.
man....I dont know about that one. It was a resource hog and kind of buggy.
Probaly buggy but when I look PureHair close its not as dense and TressFX 1.0.
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Probaly buggy but when I look PureHair close its not as dense and TressFX 1.0.

Does PureHair look different on AMD cards? IIRC TressFX didn't run the same (possibly at all?) on team green. I was on AMD at the time and thought it looked great. Letting Steam reinstall 2013 right now to see if maybe I have my wires crossed (different displays too).
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Does PureHair look different on AMD cards? IIRC TressFX didn't run the same (possibly at all?) on team green. I was on AMD at the time and thought it looked great. Letting Steam reinstall 2013 right now to see if maybe I have my wires crossed (different displays too).

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Does PureHair look different on AMD cards? IIRC TressFX didn't run the same (possibly at all?) on team green. I was on AMD at the time and thought it looked great. Letting Steam reinstall 2013 right now to see if maybe I have my wires crossed (different displays too).

Always was on AMD.

I see what you are saying now that I looked close at both. There is allot more going on in TressFX, individual hairs have their own thing going on, where PureHair is clumpier. TressFX is kind of wirey and maybe the physics behind it is calculated at a lower interval. PureHair is more convincing while moving and actually touches her shoulder, but for sure has less moving parts . I dont really know which one I like better.

Both are better than TW3s hair though! I liked the non hair works version of his hair better, and it doesn't force my FPS into a downward spiral.
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