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sometimes newegg has a sale on refurbished EVGA titan x's for $850 or 980ti's for $550

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The GPU Industry will be shifting to HBM2 due to DDR5 requiring more and more voltage as it gets faster. AMD will be featuring HBM2 on their next High End cards. I would wait and see how the two high end cards compare.
     
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I have decided ...

I'll stick with intel hd graphics on the skylake chips BECAUSE it's 40% than my current 'GPU' on my laptop.

(then wait for pascal)
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I'm on Intel HD Graphics too smile.gif I leaning towards Pascal after all...
    
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980ti is probably overkill. I have a 27" 2560x1440p G-Sync monitor and I'm fine with a 760 right now. I don't know what monitor you have but if you find a gtx 970 in the $250 range you should be good. Personally I'm waiting for a gtx 1060/1070. I've never bought the most expensive card out there when you can OC a midrange card and turn a couple settings down in the game to have the same experience as the guy who just spent a mortgage payment.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Pr0pheT View Post

Speculation threads are fun. biggrin.gif If you go back and read some previous ones then look at current ones. All performance as been incremental at best. (POV of course). I'm sure a 980Ti now will hold up for the next 2-3 years. Heck, my GTX 780 is still doing great, albeit a nice overclock. Only thing more beneficial would be some extra vram.

In short, wait if you want to or don't. It's up to you. Just remember as soon as the first batch of Pascal is released, you'll be waiting then on their Ti versions then wondering if you should wait on X version after.

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Exactly. Pick an amount you want to spend, buy the parts and build the machine as soon as possible so you get the most use out of it. Dragging out a build is fun in some ways, but sucks in all the others. You don't want to be 6 months down the track with an expensive computer that can't do what you want because you are waiting for next gen to complete the build. Just build a working rig and get to working/gaming. The upgrade cycle is infinite., and hoping for another 7970 will end in a bad time. biggrin.gif
post #57 of 71
The waiting game sucks lol, I have a 560 ti and waiting on a rma 770 which im probably just going to sell because i wanted a 980, I see a msi one on amazon for 480 but now I think im just going to wait and stick with the 560 ti lol.
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post #58 of 71
Yeah there is no point in buying a non Ti 980 right now, unless you get it for dirt cheap.
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I recently had to make the same decision, wait for the new architectures or buy a flagship card now. I decided to go for it & got the 980ti in my sig. The way I looked at it was all we have are rumors for Pascal & some anecdotal evidence of Polaris right now. Neither will be hitting the supply chain till at least this summer probably later. We will most likely only see the low & mid range cards in the new architectures when they do finally release. Then most importantly we have no idea how good or bad these cards will be. We already seen HBM in the FuryX & Fury, TBH I wasn't too impressed with it considering the Fury X is just barely trading blows with the 980ti. If HBM was gonna be such a revelation I think we would've seen much better performance out of the FuryX/Fury. Don't get me wrong I do see HBM eventually making it's mark in the video card space but it is just not there yet & I do not expect HBM2 to be a massive leap over the HBM we can get right now.

If you really think about it even if the new dies are capable of blowing this current gen of GPUs completely out of the water what reasons would Nvidia or AMD have to release them at full power? That would essentially be a huge shift in the market & wipe out all the cards that came before it heavily cutting into both companies bottom line. I just do not see that happening unless AMD is even worse off than rumored & decides to go nuclear to try to save themselves. Also you have to think of how much ill will that would create with customers who can not afford to buy into the new architecture & would be left with severely under performing cards that are less than 2 yrs. old. It is a bad business decision no matter which way you look it.

IMO with so many unknowns & unsubstantiated rumors surrounding the next gen of GPUs you are best off to buy a high end card now that can last you through the release of the next gen. Then you can sit back & see what the performance gains will truly be, which manufacture has the better product, & have a wealth of information to base your next purchase off of. With Nvidia becoming more & more proprietary with what you can do with their cards & AMD teetering on the brink of destruction in the GPU market I am not willing to trust either of them TBH. With my 980ti I know I have a good product with good performance because I was able to use all the info from reviews & user feedback to ascertain that before I bought it. That will not be the case for at least a few months after the next gen GPUs release & if you have already been waiting months & months to complete a build I doubt you will want to wait even longer till a solid opinion of the new cards is formed. So the choices are grab something you can make an informed decision on now or wait to blindly grab a new product that may or may not be a leap forward in performance. To me the choice was clear, buy now then wait to see how the next gen shakes out before buying into that.

On top of all that you have to consider the way the products will be released too. AMD has pretty much confirmed that the 1st Polaris GPUs to get released will low end ones & Nvidia has the track record of doing the same. So even if we do see the next gen by this summer it will not be the flagship quality cards & I doubt any of them will exceed 980ti & FuryX performance. They might not even match that level of performance for all we know. The only way I would consider waiting on the next gen of GPUs to be released to a viable path would be if you already have a high end GPU that you are considering upgrading from. If you are currently building a PC waiting would be a waste of precious gaming/benching time IMHO. With high performance consumer PCs there will always be something bigger, better, & badder right around the corner & if you keep waiting on the latest & greatest you will never get your PC built let alone be able to enjoy it. At least that's my 2cents.gif on this subject. thumb.gif
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Quote:
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My biggest piece of advice to someone who is hesitant to buy something is to wait. You'll never regret waiting to buy something but you sure as heck might regret buying something very early. Everything will be cheaper if you wait a little. If you're not sure whether or not to buy something, then the best solution is to wait it out and see. That goes doubly with computers because computer parts depreciate so quickly.
You are contradicting yourself. Going by your advice now is a perfect time to buy Maxwell because it's way after release and it's cheaper when it was on release. If you wait for Pascal you will be buying new product when it's most expensive, so that's exact opposite of what you are recommending. You didn't think through your advice much biggrin.gif
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