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People have an interesting moral compass downplaying things they got with less effort.
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People have an interesting moral compass downplaying things they got with less effort.

That is going to require an explanation if you intend for anyone to understand what you meant.
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Problem with 290X is that it was selling more than GTX780 Ti because of mining. The thing was that 290X for people with free electricity where free. I made ~ $1200 mining 290X, HD 7970 and HD 5850 for about 2-3 months.

I mined with 290X and 5850's as well. True, it was a victim of its own success, especially once Bitcoin was done with it and the market flooded with heavily used Hawaiis. And now that DX/OGL are focused on the same parallelism that made it so strong with cryptomining, it has a second life ahead of it. Just in time for a new architecture.

I've had no regrets at all-- once I put it on AIO water. It's been a beast.
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That's too bad; 290X is every bit the workhorse that my 5850's were, and it has even more longevity than they did. Power / heat were only an issue with the stock cooler; that critique disappears with any other vendor.

The stock configuration matters to me, even if the correct choice is to get someone else's cooler. It is a way of transmitting design intent, the sense of what a product is supposed to do and how it is supposed to behave. The 5870 and the 290X are vastly far apart on this. I do not doubt that the 290X is a solid card, but it had a number of major weaknesses that I found very troubling during my shopping period.

The other half of my decision was made due to variable refresh. G-Sync was the only game in town at the time, still is significantly superior in performance and implementation, has a much more appealing set of displays that I had to pick from, and in my opinion is likely to continue as an investment purchase for several years.

5870 was a no-brainer purchase. Nothing else on either side came even remotely close to how phenomenal the product was. 290X vs 780/780Ti was already tilting away from the 290X. G-Sync pushed me over the edge.

I want more products like the 5870. Guess what the last one is that I saw? GTX 970.
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The stock configuration matters to me, even if the correct choice is to get someone else's cooler. It is a way of transmitting design intent, the sense of what a product is supposed to do and how it is supposed to behave. The 5870 and the 290X are vastly far apart on this. I do not doubt that the 290X is a solid card, but it had a number of major weaknesses that I found very troubling during my shopping period.

The other half of my decision was made due to variable refresh. G-Sync was the only game in town at the time, still is significantly superior in performance and implementation, has a much more appealing set of displays that I had to pick from, and in my opinion is likely to continue as an investment purchase for several years.

5870 was a no-brainer purchase. Nothing else on either side came even remotely close to how phenomenal the product was. 290X vs 780/780Ti was already tilting away from the 290X. G-Sync pushed me over the edge.

I want more products like the 5870. Guess what the last one is that I saw? GTX 970.

The problem with HD 5870 was that 6 months and stock where terrible and then Nvidia came with GTX480/470 (Worse Nvidia Card) + Heaven and people loved the Tessalation @ 100C. I moved from HD 5850 to GTX470 thanks to OCN recommendation (I dont take anymore especially switching sides) and was the biggest mistake ever. GTX470 was terrible. It took Nvidia 1 year to fix Fermi with GTX580 which was what 480 should have been. Even all this did not change the fate for AMD because they then failed hard with HD 6970. Nice card and all but not faster then GTX580.
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The problem with HD 5870 was that 6 months and stock where terrible and then Nvidia came with GTX480/470 (Worse Nvidia Card) + Heaven and people loved the Tessalation @ 100C. I moved from HD 5850 to GTX470 thanks to OCN recommendation (I dont take anymore especially switching sides) and was the biggest mistake ever. GTX470 was terrible. It took Nvidia 1 year to fix Fermi with GTX580 which was what 480 should have been. Even all this did not change the fate for AMD because they then failed hard with HD 6970. Nice card and all but not faster then GTX580.
Lol, even HD6870 beat gtx 470 and it wasn't faster than HD5850.biggrin.gif
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I want more products like the 5870. Guess what the last one is that I saw? GTX 970.

That's unusual, most people complain about the poor design of the GTX 970. I don't disagree with you, it just seems unusual to see someone hold the GTX 970 design philosophy in high regard.
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AMD (well ATI back then) never really truly recovered from the Radeon HD2xxx and HD3xxx series. Up until that point they regularly traded places with nVidia being the market leader. Even the objectively superior HD4870 and HD5870 weren't enough to win back that lost market share.
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That is going to require an explanation if you intend for anyone to understand what you meant.
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The phenomenon of the placebo effect shows how deeply are humans' brains committed to some forms of the moralistic fallacy.
I intended it as an effort justification paradigm, but this explanation offers greater hilarity.
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I intended it as an effort justification paradigm, but this explanation offers greater hilarity.

I meant explain how it applies to the conversation. Seemed like you hopped in with a comment intended for another thread, not sure how someones moral compass comes into play when it comes to graphics cards.
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