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Hello,

I have 9 ssd's, 7 of which are being bottlenecked by SATA2 ports. Are there any nice bays that can replace the space of 2 disc drives? I plan to put it in the front of my case and fish the connectors to the back.

Would something like this work? Not sure if this is hooked up through pcie lane

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817994178&cm_re=mb998sp-b-_-17-994-178-_-Product

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Thanks!
Edited by Dracarys - 6/7/16 at 10:15pm
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That will work, you will also need a SATA 6Gb/s capable HBA to connect to the Icy Dock as there are 8 SATA pass through ports on the backside of it. 

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post #3 of 31
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Not sure what that means, how exactly do I connect this? I tried to find something more like this but they don't make inexpensive Bay's that connect via PCIe:

http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16815461002
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What you need is a card that plugs into a PCI-e slot to give you eight SATA ports. I'm using an LSI 9211-8I HBA card in my computer. It needs a PCI-e x8 slot and has two mini-SAS ports on it. This card has extremely limited RAID capabilities. It also tends to run pretty hot so it needs have good airflow available to it.

Another card that is better suited for RAID applications is the LSI MegaRAID LSI00295 (9266-8i SGL). Someone here probably can suggest a less expensive, used card from eBay.


To get eight SATA ports, one has to plug two cables, such as this one, called a breakout cable. Each cable branches out into four SATA cables. Each of the SATA cables would plug into a port on the drive bay.
     
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Thanks for clearing most of that up. I'm not worried about Raid as 500gb read/write is enough. So then this PCIe card connects to the Icy dock, and also 4 Sata ports in my current sata bay? Does it matter which 4 SATA ports are being used or is that just a power thing? Also, why would it run hot if it's just Solid State Drives and no HDD? Wish I could see a diagram chain of what's going on.

I stream large instrument samples from SSD's to my main OS SSD, the performance boost is astronomical and I wouldn't want worse results. To give you an idea, having several 500GB ssds spread out among the sata bay performs better than one or two terabyte SSDis.


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What you need is a card that plugs into a PCI-e slot to give you eight SATA ports. I'm using an LSI 9211-8I HBA card in my computer. It needs a PCI-e x8 slot and has two mini-SAS ports on it. This card has extremely limited RAID capabilities. It also tends to run pretty hot so it needs have good airflow available to it.

Another card that is better suited for RAID applications is the LSI MegaRAID LSI00295 (9266-8i SGL). Someone here probably can suggest a less expensive, used card from eBay.


To get eight SATA ports, one has to plug two cables, such as this one, called a breakout cable. Each cable branches out into four SATA cables. Each of the SATA cables would plug into a port on the drive bay.
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Thanks for clearing most of that up. I'm not worried about Raid as 500gb read/write is enough. So then this PCIe card connects to the Icy dock, and also 4 Sata ports in my current sata bay? Does it matter which 4 SATA ports are being used or is that just a power thing? Also, why would it run hot if it's just Solid State Drives and no HDD? Wish I could see a diagram chain of what's going on.

I stream large instrument samples from SSD's to my main OS SSD, the performance boost is astronomical and I wouldn't want worse results. To give you an idea, having several 500GB ssds spread out among the sata bay performs better than one or two terabyte SSDis.


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What you need is a card that plugs into a PCI-e slot to give you eight SATA ports. I'm using an LSI 9211-8I HBA card in my computer. It needs a PCI-e x8 slot and has two mini-SAS ports on it. This card has extremely limited RAID capabilities. It also tends to run pretty hot so it needs have good airflow available to it.

Another card that is better suited for RAID applications is the LSI MegaRAID LSI00295 (9266-8i SGL). Someone here probably can suggest a less expensive, used card from eBay.


To get eight SATA ports, one has to plug two cables, such as this one, called a breakout cable. Each cable branches out into four SATA cables. Each of the SATA cables would plug into a port on the drive bay.

Both the HBA and the RAID card I linked will provide only up to eight cables ending in a SATA data connector. The SSD bay you linked will use up all those cables (plus two SATA power cables). However, you still will be able to use the SATA ports on your MOBO. In fact, for best performance, I recommend that you connect your boot drive to the #1 SATA port.
     
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Sorry for the delay, now that my video card is over heating and I'm getting a 1070, it's time to buy the parts. A couple questions:


1. Instead of getting an 8 port, can I get two 4 ports and still use the Icy Dock?

http://www.kijiji.ca/v-computer-components/st-catharines/lsi-megaraid-sas-9260-4i-card-pcie-150-obo/1130906947?enableSearchNavigationFlag=true

^This is a decent site, if it has warranty should I good buy?
I've never seen so many similar types of the same product, dozens of model names, not sure what to go with. My budget is $150-200.

http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16816101792

http://www.ebay.ca/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_sacat=0&_nkw=x8%20SATA%20%2F%20SAS%208-Port&rt=nc&LH_BIN=1&_trksid=p2045573.m1684

2. I'm streaming large 1-3gb samples to my main OS drive, where they just chill in RAM while the other drives only READ. I average around 35gb ram usage. If I split up the 8 ports with separate PCIe is that going to result in better results? This could raise the voice count in my Music program, if you're familiar with that type of software. For example - If I stream all these samples from a 1TB SSD, I will see worse results compared to streaming from multiple 128gb ssd's.


Thanks!
Edited by Dracarys - 6/8/16 at 12:53am
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Sorry for the delay, now that my video card is over heating and I'm getting a 1070, it's time to buy the parts.

Instead of getting an 8 port, can I get two 4 ports and still use the Icy Dock?

http://www.kijiji.ca/v-computer-components/st-catharines/lsi-megaraid-sas-9260-4i-card-pcie-150-obo/1130906947?enableSearchNavigationFlag=true

This is a decent site, if it has warranty is this a good buy? I can eventually get another 4 port in the future, I'd like to see if I have any driver issues first.


Thanks!

That depends on your motherboard. That card, for reasons I don't understand (@Sean, feel free to jump in here), requires x8 PCI-e lanes for each board. You would need two PCI-e slots capable of delivering x8 lanes per slot. Assuming you don't have an X79 or an X99 motherboard, with a single graphics card, that will use up all the PCI-e lanes available, assuming none of those lanes aren't already being used by something on your motherboard. I recommend finding an HBA or RAID card that has two miniSAS ports that can support up to eight SATA ports on the one card. That way, you will be using only eight lanes instead of 16.
Edited by Lady Fitzgerald - 6/7/16 at 10:49pm
     
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I updated my OP, I have a Sandy Bridge enthusiast build.
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I updated my OP, I have a sandy bridge E build. I also updated my comment you just responded to, I linked another card on newegg.
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That depends on your motherboard. That card, for reasons I don't understand (Sean, feel free to jump in here), requires x8 PCI-e lanes for each board. You would need two PCI-e slots capable of delivering x8 lanes per slot. Assuming you don't have an X79 or an X99 motherboard, with a single graphics card, that will use up all the PCI-e lanes available, assuming none of those lanes aren't already being used by something on your motherboard. I recommend finding an HBA or RAID card that has two miniSAS ports that can support up to eight SATA ports on the one card. That way, you will be using only eight lanes instead of 16.
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