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post #11 of 93
Haha yeah, definitely pick what you think you will enjoy the most. I believe the GT72 has a rear-exhaust system for cooling also, as does my GE62 Apache Pro. Pulls air in from the front & bottom and pushes it out the rear vents.
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What I meant was that a 980m is like a 780 desktop or so performance wise and that a 970m is like a 560Ti (just an example, don't remember it out of head)

So it's not likethis: 980m = 780 so 970m = 770
   
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post #13 of 93
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Well, I listed 5 laptops, 4 with 970m and 1 with 980m.

The 3 with skylake CPU are very attractive with the new features.

And the ASUS G751JY has the 980m which is the most powerful laptop in this list.

So, because it is a very expensive choice, I can't decide so fast.


I have ideas to get a laptop with 960m and save about $500.

And other ideas to get the best one in this list.
post #14 of 93
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Alright, I saw the cooling system again and understood it.

WOW the dominator is really cool laptop smile.gif
post #15 of 93
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What about the GL551JW?

It's for $799, the price is attractive and it has 960m.

This card performs well with BF4 on YouTube videos.
post #16 of 93
Hey buddy. I have gone with the GL551 Asus, then Alienware 15 R2, then Asus G752VT-RH71, and wasn't happy with any of those. Had lots of issues especially with the G752VT. You can see a lot more about what I'm talking about in my thread in this section.

I am now using the MSI GT72 Dominator-019 which Microcenter has for $1,499.99 .. This laptop is so much nicer than any of the other ones I have tried and I mean BIG TIME!!! It has the 6820K which can be overclocked very easy just from hitting (FN + F7) .. I chose to run 4ghz when in sport mode. I have gone higher, but no need really, 4ghz is plenty on this beast. It's pretty dame fast and is almost just as fast as the 4790K I have in my desktop. This cpu is WAY FASTER than the 6700HQ so keep that in mind. The 6820K is seriously as strong as a desktop cpu. If you want to be very happy and not have a bunch of issues, go with the MSI GT72 for sure. You won't be mad that you did. It's also worth every penny they are asking.

Another HUGE thing too is that MSI's Tech Support is GREAT!! I have talked to them 3 times and every time I was treated with respect, and they answered my questions perfectly. They actually know what they are talking about, unlike Asus's tech support if you call it that. I had to teach them things for 10min every time before they could even try to start helping me and I never got anywhere. I can almost say that Dell's tech support is better which is very hard to do LOL. If you want good support behind your new laptop, MSI is the way to go FOR SURE thumb.gif

Another thing is the audio. This laptop has the loudest, clearest, best sound I've ever heard from a laptop by far. Dynaudio is a awesome company and they make some of the best sounding speakers I've heard. I've always wanted to put a pair or 2 of their 6-1/2" components in my car, but they cost like $800 per pair eek.gif , but they are worth it. You won't even have to think about plugging in external speakers to your laptop if you go with the GT72, and set it up with the Nahimic software. That will dial it in nicely for your taste.

Let me know if you have any questions, I'm always here to help biggrin.gif
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post #17 of 93
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I'm really now about to buy the ASUS G751JT, for $1197 from newegg, the GT72 is nice. I just think if I want to pay more than $1400, then I would go for the ASUS G751JY for $1568 which has 980m.

The 6820K sounds interesting, and also I think the 4720hq is still a nice CPU with the 970m.

The GT72 actually got my attraction and it's really an interesting deal on Amazon with good bundles.

Now with your recommendation for theT72, I think it's interesting, it has a very good air vents at the bottom, really liked that feature wink.gif

I like the ASUS more for the arrows location, touchpad with the buttons, it's pretty much similar to the GT72. Except the GT72 has more powerful CPU, and wait one interesting feature I found with the GT72.

>>> Killer Gaming Network E2400 / Bluetooth 4.1 / Windows 10

Does it has WiFi module or it's working with Bluetooth 4.1?
post #18 of 93
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Well I think all these 17" laptops are similar in size and weight. Since I want to travel with the laptop I want to purchase, and want to buy a bigger backpack to get this 17" laptop to fit with my clothes and parts.

Well, I'm between the G752 and the G751 because it looks cool and the cooling system is from rear vents, which I think is better than bottom cooling system. And it's more expensive than the G751 with 980m.


MSI laptops are nice, and attractive and I have to first choose to go for MSI or ASUS then I have to choose which version of a laptop I want.

It's more complicated because I saw now a video on YouTube with the performance of three GPUs 960m, 970m and 980m, and they look similar in performance.

The difference is in the FPS ratio and the effect in the gameplay is not very noticeable.

They are all very good, I think I have to choose the one which looks more cool biggrin.gif


You are CRAZY to think that those 3 gpu's are similar in performance. The 960m is so so in performance. The 970m is around 40-50% faster that the 960m easy. I started with the GL551 Asus which had a 960m and I had to run Med settings and turn things down to low just to keep 60 fps. Going to the 970m I can run almost Maxed settings and stay locked at 75 fps, and this is in games like Black Ops 3 and Star Wars Battlefront. The 970m is way more gpu that the 960m and I wouldn't get a 960m if gaming is something you want to do with newer titles. If you only play old games that are not that graphic intensive, then you can get by with the 960m. 970m is the sweet spot for the price. Now the 980m is around 25-35% faster than the 970m and it will allow you to run Maxed settings in just about any game right now. It's a beast of a mobile gpu for sure. Plus having 4gb's of Vram is awesome and never a worry when gaming in 1080p. Same really with the 3gb's Vram on the 970m.

The Asus have rear exhaust and so do the MSI's. I had the G752 and my cpu temps were around 80-90c while gaming and my gpu was around 70-75c. My MSI cpu only runs around 65-75c gaming and my gpu 60-70c and this is just on auto fan setting. If you turn on the Cool Boost 3 feature and run the fans at 100% the temps are around 45-55c on the cpu and 50-60c on the gpu. The cooling is far better on the MSI's hands down.

Here's a big thing to me also. When you are doing nothing and just sitting at the desktop, the Asus G752 cpu sits around 40-42c at idle. That's way to hot IMO. My MSI sitting at the desktop idles around 18-22c depending on ambient temps. That's huge difference in temps there and I would take the MSI any day over that hot running Asus. You are more than welcome to choose any laptop ;you like, it is your money, but I wouldn't recommend the Asus's especially because of their HORRIBLE bios versions and not even supporting the NVMe SSD's that they are supposed to support. MSI has that down for sure and can even run them in Raid 0 if you wanted.

I am a huge Asus fan and always was, but after getting the laptops I did and seeing their issues, no way do I want one anymore. MSI has blown me away with how awesome every bit of it is. The keyboard from Stealseries is awesome, the audio is unmatched by far with Dynaudio. The cooling is FAR ABOVE any of them. Also the Gpu in the MSI GT72 is also a MXM gpu which can be pulled out in a year or 2 and replaced with the next best one on the market. Drop a Pascal 980ti or whatever it is in 2 years and be rocking awesome for another few years.

The 6820K is a huge performance jump over the 6700HQ also so keep that in mind. Hope this helps you some thumb.gif

Edit: It has great Wifi and bluetooth. The wifi is AC also and works way better than the wifi on the G752 I had, even tho my router is a Asus LOL. The 6820K is way stronger than the 4710/4720HQ cpu's. The 6700HQ is about the same as the 4720hq, but the 6820K is way more powerful. About 20-25% more powerful.

In Cinebench R15 I got 670 points with the 6700HQ, and with the 6820K I get 875 points which is 2nd in the world with that cpu. And that's only with a 4ghz overclock, and I can go much higher, I just haven't needed to push it any more. I have not added any extra volts in the bios on the cpu, just using the MSI gaming app and it will run 4ghz or 4.1ghz with no issues. I'm telling you bud, you will be so much more happy if you get the MSI over the Asus's. Trust me when I tell you. I am very critical when it comes to computer hardware as you can see from some of my pics.
Edited by Hambone07si - 1/26/16 at 7:35am
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post #19 of 93
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What I meant was that a 980m is like a 780 desktop or so performance wise and that a 970m is like a 560Ti (just an example, don't remember it out of head)

So it's not likethis: 980m = 780 so 970m = 770

My GTX 960M is faster than the 560 Ti. The 970M is as fast as the GTX 770 without pause. tongue.gif

Any laptop with a 970M will do well for most modern day titles at 1080p.
     
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WOW, now I'm so not sure. The GT72 has more than 1 SSD? is that right?


I just read in newegg Q&A;
Andrew S:
2 m.2 ssd and 2 PCIe ssd Oct 26,2015


>> On product description, the SSD is optional so, it's more than $1599.

Well, with the SSD, it's $1,899. So, that answer is guess is for full upgrades.

It's not cleared on products details, why?

The GT72 is getting more interesting to me rolleyes.gif

You got the G752, and you had issues. I think G751 could be different.

And, its price is more suitable on newegg for $1197 !!

I don't know what to do, really. The pros you mentioned about the GT72 should cost the $1599.
Edited by RLT1 - 1/26/16 at 8:05am
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