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AMD just straight up doesn't support a lot of it.

Like what, please? Specifically what DX9 primitives did AMD leave out of their support for the API?

I hear this from you and Knucklehead a lot, but I've gone from 5850 Crossfire in the thick of DX9 to 290X with Skyrim, and I have yet to see what the issue is with DX9 titles. I have literally never had a problem-- at least, not one that I've noticed.

Maybe you guys had a very specific experience with something that colored the entire experience for you, and you're writing it large as a complete API support failure. Perspective, man-- it really isn't.

Although-- one caveat: I *did* notice when they fixed subframe timing in Skyrim. Crimson made that game butter-smooth compared to what it was before, but I only noticed in retrospect.
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Like what, please? Specifically what DX9 primitives did AMD leave out of their support for the API?

I hear this from you and Knucklehead a lot, but I've gone from 5850 Crossfire in the thick of DX9 to 290X with Skyrim, and I have yet to see what the issue is with DX9 titles. I have literally never had a problem-- at least, not one that I've noticed.

Maybe you guys had a very specific experience with something that colored the entire experience for you, and you're writing it large as a complete API support failure. Perspective, man-- it really isn't.

Although-- one caveat: I *did* notice when they fixed subframe timing in Skyrim. Crimson made that game butter-smooth compared to what it was before, but I only noticed in retrospect.

I retract my statement, went off to get you info, and it turns out Crimson is fixing a lot of issues relating to DX 9, as least that is the initial reporting.

Took them awhile, but, glad it is here!
    
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I retract my statement, went off to get you info, and it turns out Crimson is fixing a lot of issues relating to DX 9, as least that is the initial reporting.

Took them awhile, but, glad it is here!
Your statement was deliberately vague from the start because you had nothing. Multitude of dx9 issues you claimed and you cannot even name one.
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Your statement was deliberately vague from the start because you had nothing. Multitude of dx9 issues you claimed and you cannot even name one.

The two problems I know of that they had were not DX9 feature issues, but rather driver issues.. namely no multithreaded driver support for DX9 and 10 and no multi gpu frame pacing support for DX9.. They did at least fix the multi gpu frame pacing support recently with the crimson driver.

The frame pacing and stuttering issue was acknowledged by AMD in march of 2013, and Nvidia has had multithreaded driver support available since the 337.50 driver launch at the start of april in 2014.. There has been plenty enough waiting for these to be fixed to count it against AMD's reputation IMO.
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The two problems I know of that they had were not DX9 feature issues, but rather driver issues.. namely no multithreaded driver support for DX9 and 10 and no multi gpu frame pacing support for DX9.. They did at least fix the multi gpu frame pacing support recently with the crimson driver.

The frame pacing and stuttering issue was acknowledged by AMD in march of 2013, and Nvidia has had multithreaded driver support available since the 337.50 driver launch at the start of april in 2014.. There has been plenty enough waiting for these to be fixed to count it against AMD's reputation IMO.

DX9 has no actual MT render potential regardless of graphics vendor. Which makes perfect sense since it is a product of an era that even dual cores were pretty much nonexistent. 337.50 driver expanded upon nvidia's MT capabilities on DX11 only.
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glad to see amd resolved some issues from dx4
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Or, [NVIDIA] Adopting Mantle, Now That It Has a New Name...
     
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I question the free consulting AMD has ultimately given if you look at Mantle as an IP if looking from an AMD lens and stockholders... How much was the Mantle tech worth... 

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Or, [NVIDIA] Adopting Mantle, Now That It Has a New Name...

 

Or more like [Nvidia] Adopting Mantle, Now That It is Fully Open Sourced and isn't Held from Them by Licensing from AMD

 

 

 

You gotta remember that Mantle was effectively closed off to anyone except on AMD's approved developer list, of which the developers and businesses on that list were quite tiny. Remember when Intel was expressing interest in Mantle and AMD effectively denied them? Hope that wasn't suddenly forgotten.

 

 

Or are you just going to twist words instead of telling the truth?

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Or more like [Nvidia] Adopting Mantle, Now That It is Fully Open Sourced and isn't Held from Them by Licensing from AMD



You gotta remember that Mantle was effectively closed off to anyone except on AMD's approved developer list, of which the developers and businesses on that list were quite tiny. Remember when Intel was expressing interest in Mantle and AMD effectively denied them? Hope that wasn't suddenly forgotten.


Or are you just going to twist words instead of telling the truth?

Maybe because it was in beta or something? You know the period where you let a select few test it.
    
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