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eh no, they used some components from their intel product line. namely the digi vrm control chip and the audio chip, featured in Z87 designs (this is all he said on the subject)
he's not the only one saying they're essentially the same board. This has been discussed several times before in this subforum.
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? there are entirely different components on each board, just due to the fact they have a similar lay out doesn't mean it is the same. if they were the same it would have been available at launch like the pro was.

is it using components that are normally found on Intel boards? nope.. just run of the mill asus AMD components
Dude shut up. I'm blocking you. This whole argument is ******* pointless just because you want to play semantics.

Hardline points CANNOT CONTEST UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES:

  1. AMD does not have a real temperature readout (whether it has a sensor on it to determine margin doesn't matter. The fact of the matter is that it DOES NOT HAVE A REAL TEMPERATURE READOUT, ERGO FAKE)
  2. A88X-Pro is certainly one of the top A88X boards, LIKE I SAID. I never compared it to Intel boards. I never said it was the toppest of all the tiers. I said it was one of the top A88X boards, and later clarified FM2+ board. This is a FACT. JSC has backed up that fact. Get your dumb Intel **** outta here b/c that's not what we're talking about.

1. look at my rigs and stop being ignorant.

2. where do you think this temp read out came from? do you have any idea why it is utterly in accurate under a certain temperature.

these chips are tested under-load in labs with very good thermal referencing equipment. how can something that is scientifically tested to be accurate be considered fake?

as for elitism, maybe, but that doesn't dispute the fact that higher quality components are found in the upper tier products. which the a88x-pro lacks.

misinterpretation of a review is not in anyway backing up a fact. so no this is not backed up, go read the article it mentions two components that it uses from the z87 product stack


everything said, on this platform you won't be core temp limited unless you've got shotty cooling. the socket temps, VRM and NB temp will hold these chips back. this is why you will need more than just AMD OD thermal margins. because it doesn't show you any of the other temps that will limit your chip.
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post #23 of 31
The Stilt said something to the effect that the ASUS A88X-PRO and the Crossblade Ranger were practically identical electronically. Which is the same as saying they are the same lol! Save the audio and the Intel NIC the Crossblade Ranger sports.
Edited by chrisjames61 - 1/18/16 at 3:23pm
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No point in arguing with a guy who reports to the moderator when someone calls him out on their trash. No moderator can ever reign me in.
Edited by coffeerox - 1/18/16 at 4:22pm
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Hardline points CANNOT CONTEST UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES:
  • AMD does not have a real temperature readout (whether it has a sensor on it to determine margin doesn't matter. The fact of the matter is that it DOES NOT HAVE A REAL TEMPERATURE READOUT, ERGO FAKE)
  • A88X-Pro is certainly one of the top A88X boards, LIKE I SAID. I never compared it to Intel boards. I never said it was the toppest of all the tiers. I said it was one of the top A88X boards, and later clarified FM2+ board. This is a FACT.
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So uh....

If my BIOS shows 39C and under prime 95 AMD OverDrive shows around 50C thermal margin, these numbers are OK? I was thinking if I have that much room to work with maybe change to an 870k and overclock a bit, but I see in other threads people are saying the VRM will overheat before the CPU. Any way I can find the temps for that?
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So uh....

If my BIOS shows 39C and under prime 95 AMD OverDrive shows around 50C thermal margin, these numbers are OK? I was thinking if I have that much room to work with maybe change to an 870k and overclock a bit, but I see in other threads people are saying the VRM will overheat before the CPU. Any way I can find the temps for that?
Your idle temperature in BIOS looks great. My 860K idled that much during the summer and that's w/ a 212 Evo. Your thermal margin is more than okay. 50 under load is great. By comparison, my 860K on stock is 38 under prime95 load. Then again, 860K's don't have an iGPU. Try using some GPU monitors and see if you can get some readings out of it.
post #28 of 31
Looks like your temps are fine. Kaveri chips seem to throttle like a mofo before they get into any thermal trouble anyway, so unless you're seeing throttling, you should be fine.
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Throttling would be it dropping below the 3.1 base clock not the 3.8 boost right? It drops to 3.5 or 3.3 alot but never below 3.1ghz.
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Throttling would be it dropping below the 3.1 base clock not the 3.8 boost right? It drops to 3.5 or 3.3 alot but never below 3.1ghz.

Correct. Thermal throttling can bring you down to 1.6-1.8 GHz if I remember correctly.
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