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I'm just waiting for pics of the carnage

Yep, ain't nothing quite like a train wreck to brighten one's day. tongue.gif
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In short, I think the real problem is the lack of standardization. Just my 2 cents.

Remember 386, 486, socket 7? That is the last time I can remember a universal standard socket. Man, those were the days. I remember swapping out my IDT Winchip for my friends Pentium 266MMX, so that some games that required MMX would install. Then swapping back to the Winchip. Upgraded to an AMDK6-2, and then eventually had a Cyrix in there. Talk about standardization. I could never keep a cpu seated for more than a few months in that mobo smile.gif
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some games that required MMX

MMX? I'll bet a bunch of the younger guys are scratching their heads, wondering what the heck is that. biggrin.gif
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I like today's world where a ten-year-old CPU still has the instruction sets needed to run games. thumb.gif

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In short, I think the real problem is the lack of standardization. Just my 2 cents.

Remember 386, 486, socket 7? That is the last time I can remember a universal standard socket. Man, those were the days. I remember swapping out my IDT Winchip for my friends Pentium 266MMX, so that some games that required MMX would install. Then swapping back to the Winchip. Upgraded to an AMDK6-2, and then eventually had a Cyrix in there. Talk about standardization. I could never keep a cpu seated for more than a few months in that mobo smile.gif

The problem is that CPUs are so different nowadays that it won't work. AMD was started as a second company to supply IBM with chips, after all, creating clones of Intel's designs. Now they've gone and done their own thing, with completely different architectures to Intel's. Not even architectures, but simply how the board works. 990FX, for example, refers to a separate northbridge located on the motherboard. Intel's northbridges have been located on the CPU die since Sandy Bridge. Even if they shared a socket, an FX-8350 simply could not work in the same board as an i5-2500K - it would be lacking in an incredibly important component that links the CPU to about every piece of I/O you have.

They can certainly have similar types of sockets though. Intel has used their consumer dies (as in, the dies found in LGA-115# CPUs) in all three main types of sockets: BGA for embedded systems, PGA for general-purpose laptops, and LGA for desktops. In fact if you want, you can get a desktop QM77 board for a laptop Sandy/Ivy Bridge CPU using the classic PGA socket design. AMD has socket C32 for their dual-socket server systems, using the same dies as the FX line but a 1207-pin LGA socket. And of course, most dies can be found in soldered variants for embedded systems.

I suppose we could get standards for how various LGA and PGA sockets should work, like dimensions and lever forces, but you'll never see an Intel CPU compatible with an AMD motherboard. That makes the standards a bit pointless too, since everything ends up being proprietary anyway.
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Rob27shred, you and TC have nothing, absolutely nothing, to apologize for.

In the absence of a clear explanation in the manual, e.g. "the arrow is on the clamp", I looked with a magnifying glass for it on the socket where i have always found it. I could see no arrow or indicator of correct orientation.

What I should have done is exercise just a little bit of patience and come to you fellows instead. I did not.

By way of positive critique, over the years I have been annoyed by the lack of standardization in screws, etc. - and now the orientation of the CPU.

Who is trying to be unique here? AMD or Intel? Why are they not all the same so that experience actually does count for something - other than "be careful, don't trust the manual, what you have always done or the advice of people with a sincere desire to assist".

In short, I think the real problem is the lack of standardization. Just my 2 cents.

I know but I still feel bad though. sadsmiley.gif A little more patience & questioning on our part would've helped as well. I just wanted to clear the air a bit since this thread has attracted more gawkers & trolls than people genuinely looking to help or learn. Also I do agree a set of standards would help a ton when it comes to mobos. I know with all the different sockets & CPU types out there the standards would be challenging to come up with, but even some general standards would make things much easier for everybody. Ultimately though mistakes do happen regardless of experience & I also believe this thread should be left open as a proof to that point. I gotta give you credit though, you are taking this much better than most would & have been very gracious even though we did kinda prod you down the path to destruction. Thanks for being such a stand up person about this! thumb.gif Karma goes a long way IMO & hopefully the good karma you built up in this thread goes towards getting you a new mobo without any issues from ASrock. I have never dealt with their (or Asus's not sure who you deal with on a ASrock RMA?) customer service so I can't say for sure how easy or hard they will be with you on this.
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MMX? I'll bet a bunch of the younger guys are scratching their heads, wondering what the heck is that. biggrin.gif

Remember the adds for MMX? Made it sound like the new instructions would BLOW YOU AWAY!!!! Lol
 
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Remember the adds for MMX? Made it sound like the new instructions would BLOW YOU AWAY!!!! Lol

Full sound, smooth videos, and Rrrrrrrich colors! heheheh.
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Good luck I hope you get the pins straight again. You can use a mechanical pencil's tip to straighten them.
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i mean.. i just built an 1150, ther is NO FORCE REQUIRED to put the "latch on"

that simply falls into place ontop of the cpu and around it.. the only "force" required is to pull the lever down to lock it in.

You will absolutely 100% know if you have done this wrong before you can even attempt to pull the Lever down into locked position.
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By way of positive critique, over the years I have been annoyed by the lack of standardization in screws, etc. - and now the orientation of the CPU.

Who is trying to be unique here? AMD or Intel? Why are they not all the same so that experience actually does count for something - other than "be careful, don't trust the manual, what you have always done or the advice of people with a sincere desire to assist".

In short, I think the real problem is the lack of standardization. Just my 2 cents.
What is odd is both uses to be pins on CPU, then Intel switched in 2004-2005? with the Socket 775. As someone else said, puts the responsibility and cost of the pins on the MoBo maker, not Intel.
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