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Wait what? Why can't the 5820k use high speed ram?

You can do 3200 easily as long as you have a capable kit. And be careful not to buy a dual channel kit (with the exception of the 3200c14 TridentZ which is a very good one on X99 too).
Buy as much ram as you need in a single kit from the start and don't mix different kits.
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You can do 3200 easily as long as you have a capable kit. And be careful not to buy a dual channel kit (with the exception of the 3200c14 TridentZ which is a very good one on X99 too).
Buy as much ram as you need in a single kit from the start and don't mix different kits.
Why is that guy saying 5820k cant do high speeds?
I can go for this kit
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820104538
if anything but I want the best I can get... So why not get a higher speed kit with a lower cas
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Why is that guy saying 5820k cant do high speeds?
I can go for this kit
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820104538
if anything but I want the best I can get... So why not get a higher speed kit with a lower cas

Seems to be a fair kit for the price. Mind the capacity though. If you are okay with 16GB then it's alright. If you intend to add more in the future just do yourself a favor and spend some more cash and get a 32GB kit instead.

You can definitely do 3200 on x99 provided you have a capable kit. Buying a quad channel 3200 kit listed in the QVL of your motherboard manufacturer is recommended. The kit that you mentioned could or could not overclock at 3200 using reasonable timings and voltages. If you want to run 3200 100% guaranteed before buying without hassle, I suggest you get a 3200 rated kit.
Edited by NYD117 - 1/24/16 at 7:02pm
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Seems to be a fair kit for the price. Mind the capacity though. If you are okay with 16GB then it's alright. If you intend to add more in the future just do yourself a favor and spent some more cash and get a 32GB kit instead.

You can definitely do 3200 on x99 provided you have a capable kit. Buying a quad channel 3200 kit listed in the QVL of your motherboard manufacturer is recommended. The kit that you mentioned could or could not overclock at 3200 using reasonable timings and voltages. If you want to run 3200 100% guaranteed before buying without hassle, I suggest you get a 3200 rated kit.
Would I have a problem upgrading to 32gb in the future?
People have so many different opinions here, one guy tells me you can't use ram faster than 2666 frequence another says get 4gb dimms another says get 32 gb right away I need facts.
My motherboard is gonna be the Asus X99-PRO.
This is my first time building a system and have no idea what role the speed of the ram will play. But from what I heard faster is better but what ram I need I have no clue.
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Would I have a problem upgrading to 32gb in the future?
People have so many different opinions here, one guy tells me you can't use ram faster than 2666 frequence another says get 4gb dimms another says get 32 gb right away I need facts.
My motherboard is gonna be the Asus X99-PRO.
This is my first time building a system and have no idea what role the speed of the ram will play. But from what I heard faster is better but what ram I need I have no clue.

Your motherboard choice is a very good one in my opinion, it will help you with memory and uncore overclocking if you want to get the most out of your system.
It is strongly advised not to mix different ram kits even if they have the same ratings because they are rated individually and not as a whole. Significant amount of tinkering will be needed in the majority of such cases in order to get acceptable frequency-timings at reasonable volts that even then most probably wouldn't match the individually rated specs of each kit.

Some people might be suggesting 4GB modules just because they are single sided and generally easier to overclock than double sided ones. What you should be interested in though is getting a kit that is rated at your expectations if you want to be 100% sure that you'll get at least what you are aiming for, capacity included. The 32GB Trident Z 3200c14 from G.Skill is an example of the new single sided 8GB modules using the newest B-die Samsung ICs that are particularly strong at reasonably low voltages. It is a dual channel kit but it runs pretty good in quad channel using X99 and can be tightened down too, as seen in other threads in this forum.
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I'm in a similar situation and have been following this thread and have been wondering the same thing about the ram. By my understanding the default for the 5820k is 2133mhz. This can be changed in the bios and as long as the memory you are using supports a xmp preset of 3200mhz you should be good to go. I think that is how it works not certain though. If I am also understanding it correctly your best bang for your buck for gaming is for ram in the $150 range versus the $250 range.

I'm learning as I go though so hopefully someone can clarify on this if I'm wrong.
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Your motherboard choice is a very good one in my opinion, it will help you with memory and uncore overclocking if you want to get the most out of your system.
It is strongly advised not to mix different ram kits even if they have the same ratings because they are rated individually and not as a whole. Significant amount of tinkering will be needed in the majority of such cases in order to get acceptable frequency-timings at reasonable volts that even then most probably wouldn't match the individually rated specs of each kit.

Some people might be suggesting 4GB modules just because they are single sided and generally easier to overclock than double sided ones. What you should be interested in though is getting a kit that is rated at your expectations if you want to be 100% sure that you'll get at least what you are aiming for, capacity included. The 32GB Trident Z 3200c14 from G.Skill is an example of the new single sided 8GB modules using the newest B-die Samsung ICs that are particularly strong at reasonably low voltages. It is a dual channel kit but it runs pretty good in quad channel using X99 and can be tightened down too, as seen in other threads in this forum.
Do you think you can just direct me to the best ram for a gamer/video editor in the $100-$200 range. For the specific motherboard and a 5820k.
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I think Im just gonna go with some Cosair ram at 2133 cas 13 and avoid any problems.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820233731&nm_mc=AFC-C8Junction&cm_mmc=AFC-C8Junction-PCPartPicker,%20LLC-_-na-_-na-_-na&cm_sp=&AID=10446076&PID=3938566&SID=
Might go with the 4*8 kit but probably the 4*4 kit

Edit:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00NP6671M?tag=theladybibleb-20&pldnSite=1
This seems to be like a really good kit but again the higher speed and I keep hearing that higher speed is bad now which just really confuses me.
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Here is the rest of my build now, missing the memory kit.
http://pcpartpicker.com/user/soccerninja_21/saved/#view=sbVV3C
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The PH-TC12DX CPU COOLER
http://www.phanteks.com/PH-TC12DX.html
Seems to be smaller have pretty good performance and it looks good
+1 its also cheaper.
That will be plenty to do the job for you, and the TC14PE would be even better if you can make it work. You could also consider the Black Megahalems, which looks a little better but costs quite a bit more. A lot of people who get the Noctua that was suggested end up replacing the fans because they don't match any color scheme. It's the best you can buy, but it is butt-ugly.

Whatever you do, avoid the run-of-the-mill AIO liquid coolers. They don't perform any better than high-end air, and they're louder. They just don't move enough fluid to move heat like a true watercooling setup, because they don't have a reservoir, and so they have to make up for it with faster fannage, and more noise.

I'm no expert on X99, but from what I do know, about 2666 is the sweet spot for DDR4 performance on that platform, especially if you get lower latency RAM.
     
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