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post #141 of 155
I was looking at one of these to replace my prodigy .
I liked the look and the conventionally mounted mother board , until I got to check one out in person .
At which point , without excessive elaboration , I found that this was not the case I was looking for !
post #142 of 155
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Originally Posted by marn3us View Post

Can I use an SFX PSU (Corsair SF600) in the Nano S or do I need an adapter bracket?

You need the adapter, the Corsair SFX PSU's don't come with one.
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Originally Posted by pony-tail View Post

I was looking at one of these to replace my prodigy .
I liked the look and the conventionally mounted mother board , until I got to check one out in person .
At which point , without excessive elaboration , I found that this was not the case I was looking for !

Would you care to elaborate anyway? Feedback is always good, both for costumers as the company.
post #143 of 155
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Originally Posted by Gilles3000 View Post

You need the adapter, the Corsair SFX PSU's don't come with one.
Would you care to elaborate anyway? Feedback is always good, both for costumers as the company.
I have no wish to start a fanboi row but I found the top cover cheap and flimsy and sound damping a joke ( or worse a con ? ) , could not use a top mount radiator with my (maximus vii Impact ) motherboard due to lack of clearance for the vrm module .
Basically unless you are doing a ( very small ) custom loop using a compatible mobo and compatible rads it does not make sense , It is unnecessarily large for air cooling and for air cooling it would be better to have a gap between the PSU and the video card rather than the high roof .
It can be used for many things , but excels at only 1 , unless that is what you are building buy a different case or be prepared to mod that one .
Remember you asked !
post #144 of 155
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Originally Posted by pony-tail View Post

I have no wish to start a fanboi row but I found the top cover cheap and flimsy and sound damping a joke ( or worse a con ? ) , could not use a top mount radiator with my (maximus vii Impact ) motherboard due to lack of clearance for the vrm module .
Basically unless you are doing a ( very small ) custom loop using a compatible mobo and compatible rads it does not make sense , It is unnecessarily large for air cooling and for air cooling it would be better to have a gap between the PSU and the video card rather than the high roof .
It can be used for many things , but excels at only 1 , unless that is what you are building buy a different case or be prepared to mod that one .
Remember you asked !

Its fine, actually agree with some things you said, disagree with some others.

The moduvent covers are nice for air cooled or single rad setups to channel airflow and prevent settling dust from entering the case. Their purpose for anything other than that is indeed questionable and I do agree that they could've been build better

The problem with the ASUS Impact boards is indeed unfortunate, it seems that fractal decided to stick to ITX spec motherboards only, and the Impact is unfortunately out of spec. I'd say both companies are to blame for this issue.

When you're using an ITX motherboard there are plenty rads that are compatible, so building an adequate custom loop doesn't seem like an issue at all.

I do agree that its both to big as not very well optimized for an air cooled setup, but this can be said for most liquid cooling capable mainstream ITX cases.
post #145 of 155
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Originally Posted by Gilles3000 View Post

When you're using an ITX motherboard there are plenty rads that are compatible, so building an adequate custom loop doesn't seem like an issue at all.
It's ability to house a custom loop as I said , is the only reason that I would buy one .
It is like the Corsair 250d ( which only works if you use a H100i closed loop .) it is a one trick pony .
Personally , after years of using a dremel and a pop riveter to achieve what I want , I would rather put my own holes in the cases particularly the roof .
The original Antec Sonata was a good one for modding , good quality steel too and before the various Antecs there were the InWin uATX cases and Chieftec workstation towers .
none came with good airflow or rad support , but it was easily modded in . Much harder to mod out cheap mediocre to low quality steel with unnecessary holes to make it work properly .
Just a note my first overclock was a 166 pentium oc to 200 mega hertz ( by moving a single jumper and adding a fan to a passive heatsink .
I am still looking for 2 ITX cases one for a machine with 3 x 3.5 and 1x 2.5 drives air cooled , and one for my Impact vii with a Corsair h100i ant at present a gtx 780 graphics card and no I am not interested in having the rad in the front !
post #146 of 155
Even some 'expert reviewers' have complained about the Nano S size.. they all don't get it. Once you start with this question.. what's the smallest case that can house two 240 rads, and you survey the competion (considerably larger, and massively larger for anything that houses more), and then you start building in this one, you'll quickly appreciate what this case is about. Given that's it's build with water cooling in mind obvisously, things like GPU breathing room are forgiveable I think.

I mean... does anyone complain a school bus can't do 0-100 (60mph) in 4 secs.. ?

Anyway the sound dampening is indeed not all that.. and never could be anyway with a windowed panel. HDs or fans with some vibration also don't get dampened all that well. I found the whole thing vibrating. If you're used to fans > 800 rpm.. well never mind but if you want your pc to be near inaudible.. then it's noticeable. But what does work well is the front panel dampening.

A great silent build fot this woud be a custom loop system with a high asic 980Ti or a 1080 and a single 280 rad up front. The top vents would be closed and only use SSDs.
     
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post #147 of 155
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Originally Posted by 44TZL View Post

Even some 'expert reviewers' have complained about the Nano S size.. they all don't get it. Once you start with this question.. what's the smallest case that can house two 240 rads, and you survey the competion (considerably larger, and massively larger for anything that houses more), and then you start building in this one, you'll quickly appreciate what this case is about. Given that's it's build with water cooling in mind obvisously, things like GPU breathing room are forgiveable I think.

I mean... does anyone complain a school bus can't do 0-100 (60mph) in 4 secs.. ?

Anyway the sound dampening is indeed not all that.. and never could be anyway with a windowed panel. HDs or fans with some vibration also don't get dampened all that well. I found the whole thing vibrating. If you're used to fans > 800 rpm.. well never mind but if you want your pc to be near inaudible.. then it's noticeable. But what does work well is the front panel dampening.

A great silent build fot this woud be a custom loop system with a high asic 980Ti or a 1080 and a single 280 rad up front. The top vents would be closed and only use SSDs.

I fully agree. You basically just described my build (minus the GPU and silent fans of course, page 12 has the pics), and while it's nowhere near what I would consider silent, or even quiet for that matter, the sound dampening does help a bit. The primary culprit for the noise is of course the Noctua industrial fans, which spin probably around 1200-1500 RPM, and if I wanted silent, I wouldn't have gotten these fans obviously. The case is noticeably louder with the top panel off, so needless to say, I keep it on. However I'm willing to bet that if I put my Scythe Slip Streams in there at low RPMs, it would be dead silent. I do wish it had a PSU shroud honestly, but I wouldn't consider that a deal breaker. For a small custom loop build, this case is pretty much as good as it gets, though it does still have room to improve. A fan controller perhaps would be a nice touch.
Edited by Moneyd623 - 7/26/16 at 7:48am
 
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post #148 of 155
My build is finally complete!! biggrin.gif




What can I say? This case is simply amazing and working inside it was a breeze! I love the quality feeling as well and will report on my temperatures as soon as I solve some problems with my mobo

Thanks everybody for your suggestions smile.gif
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post #149 of 155
I don't normally like off the shelf builds but a friend came to me with a budget, and wanted something that would fit the bill and be quiet with it.

I went with the Nano because I'd heard good things, and I have to say I really like it. It fits the bill nicely.

Spec:

6700K

16GB 3600C16

ASUS Impact 8 ITX

MSI SeaHawk 1070

H100i v2 CPU Cooler

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post #150 of 155
Man I am loving these Nano builds! I want one so bad!!
   
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