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VA has less backlight bleed thankfully, so that concern isn't a big one for many of these.

It's a QC issue, not a panel tech issue, so the fact that they're VA isn't going to help (unless one makes the common mistake of confusing IPS glow with backlight bleed).

I agree with Chev, LCD quality control is damned near non-existent these days. That's why I'm still on a 2009 monitor despite having attempted to upgrade several times over the last three years. I've got LCD RMA fatigue, and I'll take an older "inferior" panel with good uniformity over a modern one with uniformity issues (aka. defective).
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It's a QC issue, not a panel tech issue, so the fact that they're VA isn't going to help (unless one makes the common mistake of confusing IPS glow with backlight bleed).

I agree with Chev, LCD quality control is damned near non-existent these days. That's why I'm still on a 2009 monitor despite having attempted to upgrade several times over the last three years. I've got LCD RMA fatigue, and I'll take an older "inferior" panel with good uniformity over a modern one with uniformity issues (aka. defective).
You can get a monitor with a really good quality panel. Dell Ultrasharp monitors from personal experience have really good panels but they come at a steep price for a monitor.
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post #83 of 179
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You can get a monitor with a really good quality panel. Dell Ultrasharp monitors from personal experience have really good panels but they come at a steep price for a monitor.

I've had mostly Dell monitors for the last decade but I don't think the quality is as good as it used to be. My 3007wfp monitors are still chugging along but my u3011 had to be tossed. It was essentially unrepairable. Lots of other people with the same issue with the u3011. The new 32" (last years model) has a lot of bad reviews about quality control.
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You can get a monitor with a really good quality panel. Dell Ultrasharp monitors from personal experience have really good panels but they come at a steep price for a monitor.

Unfortunately that hasn't been my experience. Premium monitors like Dell's Ultrasharp line are still rife with QC issues (not to mention the numerous buggy hardware and firmware revisions you have to wait through before you can get one without some or other known issue - I've yet to see a model start and end at Rev. A00).

The biggest benefit in purchasing premium monitors from the likes of Dell is the painless return policy. My last Ultrasharp monitor return was a virtually effortless, no-questions-asked, return-shipping-paid, collected-from-my-doorstep affair, while trying to return an Asus monitor involved a lot more time, money and effort coordinating with a retailer who "couldn't see" the blatantly obvious defects on the screen.

Perhaps one can improve one's odds marginally by purchasing "premium" monitors, but it's still a QC lottery.
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I've had mostly Dell monitors for the last decade but I don't think the quality is as good as it used to be. My 3007wfp monitors are still chugging along but my u3011 had to be tossed. It was essentially unrepairable. Lots of other people with the same issue with the u3011. The new 32" (last years model) has a lot of bad reviews about quality control.

There's been a QC slump since the U2711/3011 days, that's for sure.
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Unfortunately that hasn't been my experience. Premium monitors like Dell's Ultrasharp line are still rife with QC issues (not to mention the numerous buggy hardware and firmware revisions you have to wait through before you can get one without some or other known issue - I've yet to see a model start and end at Rev. A00).

The biggest benefit in purchasing premium monitors from the likes of Dell is the painless return policy. My last Ultrasharp monitor return was a virtually effortless, no-questions-asked, return-shipping-paid, collected-from-my-doorstep affair, while trying to return an Asus monitor involved a lot more time, money and effort coordinating with a retailer who "couldn't see" the blatantly obvious defects on the screen.

Perhaps one can improve one's odds marginally by purchasing "premium" monitors, but it's still a QC lottery.
There's been a QC slump since the U2711/3011 days, that's for sure.

Not sure if it's relevant to you but there's always higher end Eizo and NEC professional monitors if in need of something "premium." I wonder how the QC is in those price ranges.
 
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Unfortunately that hasn't been my experience. Premium monitors like Dell's Ultrasharp line are still rife with QC issues (not to mention the numerous buggy hardware and firmware revisions you have to wait through before you can get one without some or other known issue - I've yet to see a model start and end at Rev. A00).

The biggest benefit in purchasing premium monitors from the likes of Dell is the painless return policy. My last Ultrasharp monitor return was a virtually effortless, no-questions-asked, return-shipping-paid, collected-from-my-doorstep affair, while trying to return an Asus monitor involved a lot more time, money and effort coordinating with a retailer who "couldn't see" the blatantly obvious defects on the screen.

Perhaps one can improve one's odds marginally by purchasing "premium" monitors, but it's still a QC lottery.
There's been a QC slump since the U2711/3011 days, that's for sure.

Yeah you got a point. since my U2410 the quality has gone down. Had to RMA my U3014 A01 revision because it began randomly artifacting and sleep issues were the last straw. The painless return policy is a huge plus for me though, my experience was as you described. Got a A07 U3014 and quite happy thus far.

Nonetheless, it seems like all monitor manufacturers have had a drop in QC in recent times with the exception of NEC. I just stick with Dell because of the return policy being so good.
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post #87 of 179
Anyone else seen this video?



Bunch of new samsung monitors coming. Didn't look all the way through the video, so there is plenty more. Here's a little snippet:

  • Samsung CF791
  • 34" 3440 x 1440 VA-panel , 21:9
  • 100Hz, 4ms GtG
  • AMD FreeSync

    Samsung CF591
  • 27" 1920 x 1080 VA-panel, 16:9
  • 4Ms GtG
  • AMD FreeSync

    Samsung CFG70 Hardcore Gaming Monitor
  • 24" ja 27"
  • 144Hz, 1ms GtG
  • Probably TN-panel?
  • AMD FreeSync and nVidia G-Sync


That CF791 sure does look nice by design and on paper. thumb.gif Too bad it's probably gonna be out of my price range. frown.gif
Edited by Power Drill - 7/13/16 at 3:49am
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the first one sounds nice, since IIRC the Predator X34 Freesync version only goes up to 75 Hz (Gsync ones go to 100 Hz) .. so now there will be a 3440x1440 100 Hz Freesync
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People still making 1080p monitors and sell them for premium rolleyes.gif PC Monitors advance very very slow...
    
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Wait, does the AUO 30" Ultra-width panel comes with 3440x1440p resolution as well?



I want the 30" if it does, not the 35". Love PPI over anything else.
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