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If you’re a casual or mainstream gamer, you don’t need a discrete graphics card, Intel says.

Instead, look at integrated graphics, which are getting more powerful by the day, said Gregory Bryant, vice president and general manager of Intel’s desktop clients platform.

The top-level graphics processors integrated in Intel’s chips, called Iris and Iris Pro, can outperform 80 percent of discrete graphics chips, Bryant said.

Source:http://www.pcworld.com/article/3021496/hardware/intel-integrated-chip-graphics-catching-up-with-graphics-cards.html

Too bad they only put them in high end and expensive processors.
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Seems like marketing bull. Likely 80% of discrete gpu's out there are considered crap by this sites standards. I wouldn't fall for it unless you're playing mmo's or something.
     
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Lol, Intel....rolleyes.gif
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post #4 of 76
Such a misleading expression. Being faster than 80% of GPU models doesn't mean anything. What matters is how they perform against the GPUs in use worldwide. They could get numbers from Steam's hardware survey and present some meaningful metric, but I don't think it would look nice for them... rolleyes.gif
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What Intel means is that the IGPs have been allocated more resources and die size to become powerful enough for Joe to run his applications on the Macbook while he is sipping cappucino on a cafe and that the IGPs are powerful enough for a gaming session with terraria or AA game with settings reduced to medium because Joe isnt the typical graphic whore.
post #6 of 76
My GPU is only 450% faster than intel Iris Pro... I'm really worried. I don't even have the best discrete GPU out there. The fact of the matter is that discrete graphics will always dominate integrated graphics.

http://gpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Nvidia-GTX-980-vs-Intel-Iris-Pro-HD-6200-Desktop/2576vsm30277
 
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post #7 of 76
They may be catching up on average simply because there are many many more low end than mid-high end graphics cards out there bringing the average down to very low levels of performance.


integrated is still way off being suitable for modern games and will most likely never catch up

Just my 2 pennies,
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post #8 of 76
The two desktop Broadwells i7 and i5 have GPUs with 48 execution units and they are both a few fps slower than a GTX 750 (non Ti).

Desktop Skylake GPUs have 24 execution units, so...

It's true that Intel has GPUs with 48 units and now they even have 72 units, but those are not commonly available and are expensive. Even then, in a few months both Nvidia and AMD's new entry level GPUs will make another leap forward.

But forget all of that. Imagine that Intel would release a desktop GPU with a 200w TDP, lots of execution units, dedicated GDDR5 or even HBM, would you get one? The thing is, a GPU is worth its money also because of the drivers. AMD has far, far better current and past game support and yet because they are not the best look at how their marketshare is.

Intel has years of work ahead of them in order to improve that fundamental part. Backwards compatibility is also a very important thing. Casual gamers will be fine (as they always were), but gamers who have a discrete card won't seriously consider opening their cases and switching GPUs each time they want to play a 5 year old game.
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yes they are right, I mean the classic HD 4600 is good for most games from 2006 and before and for a laptop thats what i want, but its still highly inefficient as intels "drivers" are just shocking, you cant really complain as they aint a graphics company but still, much prefer a nvidia gt 920m or something due to real drivers.
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Seems like marketing bull. Likely 80% of discrete gpu's out there are considered crap by this sites standards. I wouldn't fall for it unless you're playing mmo's or something.

i didn't read the article but, i know the HD5xxx and most likely the hd6000 are on par if not faster than with lower mid rang gpus like a say an nvidia GT640 2GB (which can do quite a bit at 720p), i think the overstatement here is not mentioning which segment which if i had to guess and what my gut says to be the lower midrange or upper low end.
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