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I will just fanboy and stay by my word. Either Nvidia or AMD.

Yeah, don't think so.

It's actually quite inevitable that we'll eventually move away from the GPU as a separate unit regardless of who makes it.

Not only due to the space it takes up but, eventually we won't have a need for it.

Think about it - Steam machines...The current advances in Tech...Smaller is better...Eventually we'll outgrow the need for additional/separate gpu support.
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Are they catching up? Yes (AMD), are ours catching up (Intel)? No..

nVidia should get into the CPU/APU consumer market too, more comp, more options less prices.
     
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Larrabee GPU incoming.
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post #34 of 76
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Originally Posted by GigaByte View Post

Are they catching up? Yes (AMD), are ours catching up (Intel)? No..

nVidia should get into the CPU/APU consumer market too, more comp, more options less prices.

They technically are but with ARM.
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post #35 of 76
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I would never buy a Intel GPU. Drivers would be super bad. AMD and Nvidia have been dealing with gaming drivers for ages.

 

This is true. I get graphics corruption even in LibreOffice on my Broadwell-Y chip (HD5300)

 

But Intel's solution is to throw bills at the thing until it works, so they shouldn't be left out of the picture. Mostly because unlike AMD or nVidia, they do have the bills to throw.

   
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post #36 of 76
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Are they catching up? Yes (AMD), are ours catching up (Intel)? No..

nVidia should get into the CPU/APU consumer market too, more comp, more options less prices.

Quote:
Originally Posted by ZealotKi11er View Post

They technically are but with ARM.

I wonder what the cost is like to get an x86 license? Either way I don't think it makes very much sense to spread out quite so much. Trying to do CPUs and GPUs hasn't been super great for AMD so far, seems to be hard to keep both sides running at peak.
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Thread Starter 
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The title and the article mix things up a little so it gets confusing.

In my opinion :
- Catching up? Yes. Since there was pretty much nothing worth talking about 6 or 7 years ago in the iGPU department.

- Outperforming 80% of discrete graphics cards? Eh. Depends. The most balls to the wall iGPU Intel has vs the average discrete graphics card? Maybe.

As for another point made in the article:
Good enough for gaming. Casual gamers? Yes. Mainstream gamers? No, not yet anyway.

I've only quoted what was in the article.
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intel should fix their drivers before they claim something that is just not true.

https://communities.intel.com/thread/39881?start=30

18 pages of a black screen issue when you install latest intel hd drivers and not one solution from intel.

sadly some of those users have notebooks.
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Are they catching up? Yes (AMD), are ours catching up (Intel)? No..

nVidia should get into the CPU/APU consumer market too, more comp, more options less prices.

nvidia is not allowed to.
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NVIDIA also does not get an x86 license. x86 is among an umbrella group of what’s being called “Intel proprietary products” which NVIDIA is not getting access to. Intel’s flash memory holdings and other chipset holdings are also a part of this. Interestingly the agreement also classifies an “Intel Architecture Emulator” as being a proprietary product. At first glance this would seem to disallow NVIDIA from making an x86 emulator for any of their products, be it their GPU holdings or the newly announced Project Denver ARM CPU. Being officially prohibited from emulating x86 could be a huge deal for Denver down the road depending on where NVIDIA goes with it.

http://www.anandtech.com/show/4122/intel-settles-with-nvidia-more-money-fewer-problems-no-x86/2
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Yeah, don't think so.

It's actually quite inevitable that we'll eventually move away from the GPU as a separate unit regardless of who makes it.

Not only due to the space it takes up but, eventually we won't have a need for it.

Think about it - Steam machines...The current advances in Tech...Smaller is better...Eventually we'll outgrow the need for additional/separate gpu support.

Maybe to multiple sockets on a board (CPU socket(s), and GPU socket(s)) with the advent of HBM and if Xpoint is as fast as it claims to be possibly sharing RAM between the two. Beyond that they do such vastly different jobs and require being designed vastly different that it will never happen as long as we stay on silicone since if I recall, something like 7nm is the end of the road on die shrinks.
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