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Why is everyome ranting "maybe for low end like terraria" 720p high settings gta v on iris will earn you 60fps
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Its not even faster than 7850k iGPU in games that i call games.

Wiedźmin means Witcher btw.
Edited by Pro3ootector - 1/20/16 at 2:57pm
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HBM APUs will destroy the market.
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I don't think games like GTA V and Witcher are what Intel (or most people) would regard as mainstream or casual gaming (on the PC at least). Yes there are a lot of people playing those games but there are absolutely loads of people playing browser based/facebook games in comparison. Those of us who are playing games like GTA, CS:GO, Witcher and the like on PC are the hardcore segment. Most of the facebook gamers play those kinds of games on their console, not their PC.
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Ok it's Skull Canyon wich is the fastest, that's yet to be relased. It will compete with Bristol Ridge.
Edited by Pro3ootector - 1/20/16 at 3:58pm
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Maybe to multiple sockets on a board (CPU socket(s), and GPU socket(s)) with the advent of HBM and if Xpoint is as fast as it claims to be possibly sharing RAM between the two. Beyond that they do such vastly different jobs and require being designed vastly different that it will never happen as long as we stay on silicone since if I recall, something like 7nm is the end of the road on die shrinks.

No, in it's entirety.

It's very foreseeable that in the near future, sockets are done away with entirely and all we'll have is a "cpu"..."Near" is relative, obviously but, the belief that the GPU is here to stay, as an added accelerator is, not reality.
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Intel trying to make their most expensive chips look relevant, despite them getting slapped silly by much cheaper AMD ones. I won't even mention Intel's terrible drivers.

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Games (and other performance utilities) are always going to want to chew on as much horsepower as they can stuff in their mouths, which will give discreet graphics a market for the foreseeable future. We're already at the point where integrated graphics are enough for casual "gaming" and surfing the web, but there's always going to be the next crisis in need of more oomph than igpu's can deliver.

Inflation of required gpu performance isn't just going to come to an end. We're going to have 4k resolutions and ever higher refresh rates becoming more and more mainstream. We're going to have occulus rifts pushing 2 screens.

Perhaps people will finally be satisfied with graphics when we have 12k resolution and 240Hz refresh standard, and when igpu's have reached the point where they can deliver that, then maby they'll start to take over from discrete graphics. But I kinda doubt if increases in graphic fidelity will simply stop there.
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They may be catching up on average simply because there are many many more low end than mid-high end graphics cards out there bringing the average down to very low levels of performance.


integrated is still way off being suitable for modern games and will most likely never catch up

Just my 2 pennies,

They'll catch up.

After they released last year's Iris Pro it became clear that Intel should be able to come out with an i3 cpu that also has a a gpu as good as the ones AMD and Nvida sells for $100-$150 in 2021. They already make GPUs better than AMD/Nvida's $50-$100 offerings but right now they are paired up with a CPU that is way too expensive, the i7s.

Right now it's still more cost effective to get an i5 and a $100 gpu instead of the i7 but that trend should change in the time frame I put forward.
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They'll catch up.

After they released last year's Iris Pro it became clear that Intel should be able to come out with an i3 cpu that also has a a gpu as good as the ones AMD and Nvida sells for $100-$150 in 2021. They already make GPUs better than AMD/Nvida's $50-$100 offerings but right now they are paired up with a CPU that is way too expensive, the i7s.

Right now it's still more cost effective to get an i5 and a $100 gpu instead of the i7 but that trend should change in the time frame I put forward.

Anything under GTX750 Ti or R7 370 should not be bought by anyone. Even then I would say anything under GTX960/R9 380 I would just get a used GPU for much less. For $70 you can pick up HD 7870 these days. A bit more and HD 7950.
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