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So guy says he bought a cheap Core 2 duo system and some little doo-dad to change pin outs so mobo could handle a Xeon 5460, then oc'd the snot out of it and could play Witcher 3 and other current games. Cooler, the pin 'strap' and more ram and he was set (with his PSU and whatever card he's using).

Which could I oc the highest, a Xeon 5460 or similar, or my Phenom II 2 550 black? Assuming I'd go w/air and not more than $50 for the cooler?

I just can't believe that an older system could be oc'd on a "regular" mobo and play today's games (long) before problems melting something. If you had a board that was made to oc, yeah. If true, I have access to about a gazillion Core 2 duo systems in our recycle bin, sans ram.

Furthermore: 'playable' by himself, not against a modern pc. OK maybe a bios update helps his board. Slower ram and fps all depends on his card but ... Really? This sounds unbelievably cheap, even though it'll have no legs.


Thanks in advance,

Mac
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The X5460 is a quad core so it'll pretty much smoke the Phenom II in newer games. If you get a decent cooler 4GHz should be achievable on it with about 1.34V VCore.
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My mistake, I should've said unlock and oc the Phenom, if stable. So you think an older Xeon on a Core 2 duo board could run 2016 games w/o problems, i.e. oc using that little clip for an extended period of time?
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My mistake, I should've said unlock and oc the Phenom, if stable. So you think an older Xeon on a Core 2 duo board could run 2016 games w/o problems, i.e. oc using that little clip for an extended period of time?
Okay, if your going to be unlocking the Phenom I'd just not bother with the Xeon, it's much less of a headache that way. Clock vs. Clock they perform about equal and the Phenom should be able to get to 4GHz as well, albeit with more voltage.
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The xeon is not much older, it was released in november 2007, and the phenom in january 2010, theres only two years of difference, the performance per clock is almost on par, and the newer 775 boards arent the same as thw 865 chipset ones from 2005, the newer g41 p45 x48 are very good boards, i have a asus rampage formula x48 and i could push c2d e8500 to 4.8 ghz with 505fsb, you could run the xeon easily at 4ghz with some similar board, and it would run circles around the phenom ( althought the x5xxx are not supported on x38 and x48 boards x3xxx like the x3633 is supported, and they are the same kind of cpu)
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I would go with the xeon do to the larger cache however the phenom is easier to overclock

 

I had a celeron 360 that was faster then my friends core 2 due in most games because the celeron could overclock to 5ghz+ on air

 

so not always is a slower cpu slower it all depends on what you are going to do with it

 

just like a 1966 dodge dart will smoke a 2016 dodge dart :D


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Thank you all. Glad I don't have to vote a fav answer. All were helpful. I thought I could only get the Phenom up to maybe 3.8 tops. Not sure I can even oc the xeon on the mobo in those throwaway boxes but I might give it a try since I'd only need some ram.


Thanks again,

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I wouldnt overvlock it in anything with less than 5 phases and mosfet cooling, at least to raise voltage, this cpus are very efficient at stock vcore, but when overclocking, they are pretty much a core 2 quad, so they use lots of power, you could use it at stock vcore in any board and overclock it, just dont raise the vcore, and still, at stock speed it would perform much better than the phenom, because of the extra cores
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