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Yes. I flame suited up but please bare with me. It is a serious question.

I have the 'Fat guy in a little coat' build. It was my first real water cooled loop so I wasn't ready to jump face first off the cliff and chose standard tubing.

Reasons I am considering this now.
1. I already have all necessary fittings and flex tubing for loop
2. I don't want to spend another $60-100 in fittings
3. Flex tubing doesn't like 180deg turns
4. Flex tubing doesn't like 90deg turns

FYI- The tubing is bright white.

What I am trying to accomplish.
--Since I added a GTX 980 to the mix, it's made life interesting inside the case. To bring everything back to normal, I wanted to do rigid tubing or more recently, copper. From everything I've been reading, it is more friendly with tighter turns and doesn't require fittings everywhere. If this were a fresh build where I didn't have all the parts I do now, this wouldn't be a thread.

Here is my master rendering


The image doesn't include some of the other bends like from the pump to the GPU or the Rad back to the pump. And/or if I'm going to use a 120mm off the back of the 304. That is still up in the air.

Since the G1/4 is roughly 5/16, the hardware store doesn't carry it because it's not very common. In looking for others, I've seen several fittings that are said to work including primochill revolver/ghost, koolance alphacool and some push fittings at aquatuning. All of which are pricey considering I would need to replace all of them in my build.

Here is where the copper sleeve comes in. It's cheap enough that 1/2" ID (5/8" OD) x 10ft soft copper roll is equal to 3 fittings (on the cheap end). My tubing is 3/8" ID (1/2" OD). I want to take some of the tubing there to see if it will play nice with the copper. I am expecting if this does happen, I will need a lubrication of sorts.

I was also trying to come up with other options like using a small rod like a metal coat hanger to give me the bends I need then rap it and the tubing in anti kink coil and hope for the best. Speaking of which. I will be checking and possibly raiding the closet to test this free method out.

I would really like to see how the copper sleeve would turn out though.


Thanks for any and all suggestions. I'm going to go hide now.
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I don't disagree. Would you be willing to explain a little more on what your second option is? Is that a push or compression fitting? And what are you suggesting to thread into the blocks?

Or you saying to use the flex to come off the block, then attach to adapter for copper tube?


And I am still looking at just leaving the existing tubing and just trying to clean up the runs. Coming off the GPU is still the challenge though. Either I need to figure out how to do those bends or there is going to be a lot of tubing.

Thanks,
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Edited by outlaw8505 - 1/21/16 at 7:37am
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post #4 of 8
Either way you do it you still have to get the tubing connected to the blocks with whatever method you prefer. Personally I'd prefer barbs and clamps.

I'm just suggesting that it's a lot easier to slip a piece of tubing onto the ends of copper tubing than it is to stuff tubing inside the copper.
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post #5 of 8
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Thanks and it's a good point. I was thinking it would have looked cleaner as a sleeve with the hopes of being able to cover the tube where it goes over the barb. (In my mind) The copper would also work to secure the tubing to the barb because of the tight tolerances.

I guess I would only need a couple inches of tubing though to go from barb to pipe and still maintain a "hybrid" look to it. I'll have to stop back at the hardware store to see how the white looks on the copper or maybe pick up a small amount of black tubing to blend in with the barbs.

+rep!

Thanks for the help. If there are any other ideas, please let me know.
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post #6 of 8
I'm kind of going through the same decisions. I'm setting up watercooling on a Dell Optiplex 755. It's going to be a "Wall Computer" for my workshop.
Polished soldered copper?
Painted, thin wall PVC"
Sleeved Tubing? Maybe SS braid?
Or maybe solid Acrylic? Clear blue?




We'll see.........
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I thought mine was tight. I'm all too familiar with the 755. Good luck with that.
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post #8 of 8
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Really digging the 1/4" soft copper. My 3/8" id tupe sits really snug on it. Even found some black tubing to blend it in. From a indepth review at hardforum on sizing. It doesnt seem my 3/8 is much different temp wise and I may make up a fraction with copper. Any objections?

Only 30ish min while I play at the store.


update**
Times up. I did get the 1/4" It's the same as my barb ID so I figured I should be fine there. I also got a roll of black vinyl tubing. I even got to meet store security who was interested in what I was cutting and the swiftech fittings I left on the copper roll when I checked out. haha. BTW it was the black tubing I bought to make sure everything fit like I hoped.

Thanks billbartuska for the suggestion and GL with your 755. I'll be updating my build log probably tomorrow/this weekend with some updates on the tubing and EK block for the GPU.
Edited by outlaw8505 - 1/21/16 at 5:36pm
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