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thanks for your huge help, i was gonna re-apply thermal paste but you saved me from doing that, so i really appreciate it.. i was thinking of buying a new gen graphics card before i have these issues with my current gpu (maybe something like GTX 970 but when i have the money), because 7870 xt is getting old anyway, even though it still a very good card.

i tried to re-seat my GPU and re-plugged its power cables, but nothing happened except that I'm hearing an annoying buzz while gaming (that's new), and also another weird thing happened.. after i quit the game every time the fan return to spin normally for around 1 minute, and then it just stops again.

could it be a PSU issue? as i don't have the highest psu quality (Thermaltake 450w) with just one PCIE 6 pin, and my GPU requires two 6 pins, so I'm using molex.

i've also read that it could be a bios problem or a mobo problem (PCIEx16 slot is burned maybe), so I'm not sure. but i guess I'm into the first option which is contacting Sapphire for a start.
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thanks for your huge help, i was gonna re-apply thermal paste but you saved me from doing that, so i really appreciate it.. i was thinking of buying a new gen graphics card before i have these issues with my current gpu (maybe something like GTX 970 but when i have the money), because 7870 xt is getting old anyway, even though it still a very good card.

i tried to re-seat my GPU and re-plugged its power cables, but nothing happened except that I'm hearing an annoying buzz while gaming (that's new), and also another weird thing happened.. after i quit the game every time the fan return to spin normally for around 1 minute, and then it just stops again.

could it be a PSU issue? as i don't have the highest psu quality (Thermaltake 450w) with just one PCIE 6 pin, and my GPU requires two 6 pins, so I'm using molex.

i've also read that it could be a bios problem or a mobo problem (PCIEx16 slot is burned maybe), so I'm not sure. but i guess I'm into the first option which is contacting Sapphire for a start.

A GTX 970 would be nice, if you want a new card, but I would really have to recommend a used 290 for $150~200 on Ebay. They're just as fast, if not faster than the 970 for half the price if you're lucky. If you have no problems buying used, that's the price/performance king. The best I've done with a 7870 XT in Valley was around 45 fps, but with a 290 I did 70+ fps. That's the difference. Used 290s are a dime a dozen. I've bought numerous cards used on Ebay to bench and never had a problem with any of them, they all worked great. Just make sure you check the description and get one "Used", watch out for "Parts or Not Working".

Power cables could be a serious problem. Use the dedicated PCI-E power cables instead if you can find them. Generally, you NEVER want to use Molex because basically, the power draw of the card is too much over Molex. Especially if you have fans and other stuff running off the same line.

450w could be enough, or not enough depending on the CPU you have. I don't know so I can't say. If you have an Intel i3 or less it's probably enough, if you have AMD anything it probably isn't. The 7870XT can draw up to 250w under load, easily. The two 6 pins draw 75w and the slot draws 75w for up to 225w total but in reality it can surpass that. Depending on the brand of your PSU, and how good it is you may want to replace it.

You should fill out a Rigbuilder. Follow this guide. It's a little different now but still mostly the same. If you have your rig in your signature people can help you easier.

If the rest of the system is working fine then I doubt it's a burnt PCI-E slot. If your PCI slot was damaged I would expect the system to not even POST with the card inserted. It might even short out the board and fry it.

It is likely that the fan is dead based on my experience. I would try contacting Sapphire and explaining the issue to them. Make sure to include all the details, including the temperature difference.

Good luck.
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yes AMD always better for the the price, but i already had my experience with AMD so i may need a change. plus the 290 will require another PSU that i can't afford for the current time. the good thing about nividia that it requires lower wattage and have lower Temps. and i had my heat issues with AMD.

i have intel i5-3470, and i guess yes my psu is enough for my current rig, especially that its written on it "peaks at 500w".. the problem could be the quality of the psu not the wattage.

i may try the card on another pc first if i can and inform you if something new happened, so i may help people have a similar problem to mine.

Thank you again for your help. you are a hardware Saver thumb.gif
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If you look on ebay you can usually buy replacement fans. You could just change the fans and be good for around $20 USD smile.gif
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thank you.. that's probably what im going to do, but i want to make sure first that my fan is the problem so i may try to test it on another pc, because when i move the fan with my fingers it spins freely and smoothly.. that made me suspect that it could be a psu issue or maybe something stuck in the fan.
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It could be, but my guess is that the motor is just worn out. I have a 6950 that one fan just moves a little bit and the other doesn't spin at all. Yet both spin freely by hand. Testing in onother system is a good idea though if you can, just to be sure. GL
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@neurotix Good job on the fan guess!

Now that you mention it, my 280x has had this problem before, one of the fans doesn't spin on boot, but it only needs a handy push and it's good to go.
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Thanks. I figured it was probably the fan because of my 7970. I guess the fans Sapphire used during that era (2012-2013) are poor and fail after some time.

Fortunately, the fans on the higher-end cards now (290X Tri-X, Vapor-X, 390X Nitro, R9 or R7 anything custom...etc) are totally different and much better. The fans on my 290 Tri-X and Vapor-X I had lasted. None of them failed. Those cards are gone now though while I wait for Polaris. In the meantime I'll run a single 380X Nitro because I don't play very demanding games on my Eyefinity. Card should be here this week.

I'll continue to recommend Sapphire cards to people, even used ones, solely for this fact: I've had about 12 of their cards and NONE have been voltage locked. They all have had unlocked voltage. Even my 2008-era 4670 has unlocked voltage.

The 2-year warranty really sucks. If they offered a 3-year warranty, heatsink removal (e.g. for watercooling), and a step-up program like EVGA, then they would sell many more cards and lose their ambivalent, mediocre reputation for customer service. The cards are generally excellent and have some of the best coolers on the market. But the customer care sucks.

OP let us know if you get in touch with Sapphire and what they say. I would hope they would stand by their product and repair it, even out of warranty, if you offer to pay.
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i will. I'm planing to do that in the coming days, i guess if i offered to pay they won't mind, actually they might be happy the card is out of warranty and they won't have to repair it for free.

i forgot to mention something, when i first noticed the increase in temps i pulled out my card for the first time and cleaned it with an air duster can (i didn't hold the fans while cleaning it so it spun by the air).
i put it back and there was no change in temp, even though a huge amount of dust has came out from the heatsink and it was like brand new, till i noticed that one of my fan isn't spinning. so I'm thinking that maybe the fan stopped because i cleaned it in the wrong way, but then again there was no change in the temps like it didn't go higher after cleaning it. so I'm not sure when exactly my fan stopped spinning, when i first noticed the temps increase, or right after i cleaned it.
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It could be all the dust that caused the fan to stop working, if it was as dusty as you say.
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