Overclock.net › Forums › Components › Keyboards › Need a native PS/2 Mechanical Tenkeyless Keyboard, No USB.
New Posts  All Forums:Forum Nav:

Need a native PS/2 Mechanical Tenkeyless Keyboard, No USB.

post #1 of 21
Thread Starter 
Hi, I'm sure some of you have seen R0ach research over Mouse input lag and how USB Keyboard, especially keyboards with 1000Hz polling rate can create some "Polling disturbance" on the USB Bus controller leading to input lag on the Mouse and weird movement glitches.

I've followed his guide for reducing all possible input lag on my Sensei Wireless (I know, 20ms for being Wireless, which is the reason why I'm reducing every other source of input lag, wireless on itself without having a cord pulling it feels faster in a way than wired), I've disabled HPET, Hyperthreading, I also have a BENQ XL2730Z With AMA Set to Premium for maximum performance (1ms Average) and tons of tweaking in BIOS and Windows, now I have only one more variable to eliminate, my 1000Hz Polling rate USB CM Storm Quickfire TK Keyboard (Well I actually also have a Asus Xonar U7 USB Sound card, but its sound is too good coupled with my Sennheiser HD 700 for me to take it out of my system, don't think its impact is as big as a 1000Hz Keyboard though, I have it set to 16 Bit 44.1KHz)

Price is not an Issue, can anyone recommend the absolute HIGHEST END NATIVE PS/2 Keyboard, preferable Tenkeyless, backlight is absolutely optional, without anything fancy, just raw quality and performance using PS/2, not having USB Support would be a big bonus. thumb.gif
Edited by Dargonplay - 1/22/16 at 11:17pm
post #2 of 21
as much as you want tenkeyless/ps2 why not save yourself the trouble of all these things you are doing and go with the cherry mx 6.0

http://www.cherry.de/cid/Mechanical_keyboards_CHERRY_MX_BOARD_60.htm?rdeLocationAttr=0&rdeLocaleAttr=en&switch=true
Quote:
Originally Posted by uaokkkkkkkk View Post

You know what? Why not. G410 is very very light anyway.

So lets bump test the keys themselves together and see what happens!

G410 is right arrow key.
Quickfire XT(PS/2) MX REDS is spacebar



This is nowhere near the earlier 16-20ms I was getting the ruler method.

So if you didn't already know PS/2 doesn't mean jack.

I'll be picking up a G910 soon after I return the G410.

logitech g410 beat ps/2 mx red keyboard.
post #3 of 21
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by saltedham View Post

as much as you want tenkeyless/ps2 why not save yourself the trouble of all these things you are doing and go with the cherry mx 6.0

http://www.cherry.de/cid/Mechanical_keyboards_CHERRY_MX_BOARD_60.htm?rdeLocationAttr=0&rdeLocaleAttr=en&switch=true
logitech g410 beat ps/2 mx red keyboard.

SDweet Jesus, How did I never heard of Cherry making their own keyboards? The MX Looks sicks I'll probably buy it right now but I have one doubt, "Logitech G410 Beats the MX" Wut?

EDIT: What a Boomer, I just checked and the MX doesn't have PS/2 Native support, doesn't matter how fast it is, if its USB its worthless for me.

EDIT2: Checked the Logitech G410 and it doesn't support PS/2.
Edited by Dargonplay - 1/22/16 at 10:55pm
post #4 of 21
Thread Starter 
NVM, I just bought the CM Storm QuickFire Rapid from here

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B007VDLVD4?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_detailpage_o01_s00

I was reading other Threads where they said it was basically the best Keyboard for PS/2 connections, with Red Switches. I also bought these O-Rings

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00E4MYDTY?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00

Are those rings good? I wanted to find the hardest rings available, 70-80A if possible, but there seem to be none available in Amazon, so I went with 50A 0.4mm
post #5 of 21
I don't know anything about keyboards, yet, but decade plus of polymer extrusion I know the hardest seals you can find within reasonable price would be shoreA 85-90 durometer Viton. Nearly Indestructible as well. 50A buna nitrile will be quite squishy as far as orings go. That might be optimal for kbs, idk but higher durometer is harder. ShoreD are rigid plastics so watch out for that. I generally do all paintball seal purchases from mcmaster.com.

If you're bored and money isn't an issue, you could mess with some silicone seals as they have different properties when it comes to compression set and rebound, how fast they resume original shape. Generally speaking on pricing, if it's expensive it's more resistant to wider range of chemicals which I'd hope isn't a feature you need, ha.
post #6 of 21
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dargonplay View Post

Price is not an Issue, can anyone recommend the absolute HIGHEST END NATIVE PS/2 Keyboard, preferable Tenkeyless, backlight is absolutely optional, without anything fancy, just raw quality and performance using PS/2, not having USB Support would be a big bonus. thumb.gif

Did you know ALL Filco keyboards operate on a PS/2 connection perfectly.

Plus you can choose either Black, Red or Blue MX switches in their TKL range.
post #7 of 21
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Elrick View Post

Did you know ALL Filco keyboards operate on a PS/2 connection perfectly.

Plus you can choose either Black, Red or Blue MX switches in their TKL range.

Sadly, a little bit too late as right now I'm rocking a cooler master rapid fire TK with red switches and O rings, I'm very satisfied with the keyboard except for the fact that having an actual backlight on each key is a more important of a feature that I thought, I usually use my computer at night, so it gets very annoying when I need to press F1 or F2 while gaming real quick.

Going to look into Filco keyboards and maybe send this one back if I can find a fully illuminated Filco with all the same features as this CM Rapid fire, PS/2 is a priority and if every Filco support native PS/2 then it's a no brainier, ty thumb.gif
post #8 of 21
That you're concerned about using a USB keyboard while using a wireless Sensei is absolutely hilarious.
b0xy
(14 items)
 
  
Reply
b0xy
(14 items)
 
  
Reply
post #9 of 21
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by mtzgr View Post

That you're concerned about using a USB keyboard while using a wireless Sensei is absolutely hilarious.

How so? I find it perfectly fine compared to the Razer Mamba 2015 Chroma, Which I tried before buying the Sensei, for me its the best Wireless Mouse available today as the Mamba is a Bug/Glitch Fest with their drivers and an Input lag fest when using any kind of acceleration, in contrast, the Sensei feels more snappier even when using Acceleration, My Human benchmark Score with the Sensei went down to 180ms Average when using wireless and 160-170 Average when using Wired, while with the Mamba it never went down from 215ms Wireless.

Also it just works man, so I'm curious, why is it hilarious?
post #10 of 21
i still wonder if it really matters.
never did tests myself, i haven't used PS/2 in a long while..
New Posts  All Forums:Forum Nav:
  Return Home
  Back to Forum: Keyboards
Overclock.net › Forums › Components › Keyboards › Need a native PS/2 Mechanical Tenkeyless Keyboard, No USB.