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post #161 of 371
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It'd be fantastic if Steelseries released a RAW version of this mouse without the modularity gimmick and such since I imagine it'd be sub-100g. And speaking of, I still don't understand the logic behind creating a mouse with modular sensor feature then packing it with the 3360 by default. Makes no sense to give people the option to downgrade; the logical thing from a business standpoint would be shipping it with a 3320 or whatever then offering the 3310/9800/3360 as parts. As it stands the mouse already comes in its best configuration and all they did was increase weight and add more ways for the mouse to break.

Maybe they eventually will drop a Raw version. Buuuuuut don't hold thaf breath.
post #162 of 371
I don't know why people complain about the weight so much I was using Mamba Wireless 2015 since it came out which is looking at the website 125 grams which is close to 135 it was heavier then DeathAdder but i wondn't say it would be the reason to return...
There were many other reasons smile.gif but weight wasn't one of them. It's all a mater of time.
post #163 of 371
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I don't know why people complain about the weight so much I was using Mamba Wireless 2015 since it came out which is looking at the website 125 grams which is close to 135 it was heavier then DeathAdder but i wondn't say it would be the reason to return...
There were many other reasons smile.gif but weight wasn't one of them. It's all a mater of time.

Oh don't get me wrong, if weight is no issue, or you run a higher sens you will be good. The shape & buttons pass with flying colors. I'm just telling those who care a lot about weight to not waste time when it will piss them off.

If you like the idea of the mouse & what it has going for it & are willing to fight through getting use to it then hell go for it. I am still deciding if i am really gonna send it back. Because the Shape is great, buttons the same. Sensor the same, so it gets a lot right. It's just weird they made a mouse so heavy when just about everyone is making these mice pretty light.

Plus this mouse is going for $100 withour shipping. For what is in the package?? Hell no, it's not worth it to be flat out honest with you.

Again i'll make this comparison.

The G303 for what is in the package at $40-45 is more than a steal. If that shape wasn't weird to most people, it would be snatched more by gamers than Malt liquor in the 80's. If you claw or can simply get use to the shape, no real reason to look another direction, best buttons, sensor, solid light weight. Come on now.

Ec2-a at $59: Light buttons, great shape & solid sensor. Light weight. Also it being a little smaller means it can be a fit for even more hands, to me the smaller size stillllllll feels really good in the hand with the added light weight so i can whip it across the pad like coke across the table. One of the most used mice on the pro scene(if that matters) to some it says that it shows how good a mouse can be, or how good it is.

Hell the Rival 300 is running for $45 at best buy out here by me, is the 700 that much better?? Hell no.

Finalmouse Ergo. Even with all the hate it can get, plenty praise the mouses weight, sensor & some really like the shape. At $67.12 with great light buttons (terrible side buttons), light weight & some of the best customer service around. I hate it price wise though, even still it is still a better value than the Rival 700.

$99?? No,That price is not a good target & it needs to be dropped.

Price for value is what we all should look at i believe. If i like something i have no issue paying for it, no problem. Always gotta weigh option though. Justifying $99 for this mouse just isn't gonna happen.
Edited by PhiZaRoaH - 5/29/16 at 1:29am
post #164 of 371
will buy this, i game at 2500 dpi
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post #165 of 371
Oh just a curious question, anyone who owns this do you feel the 3360 is exactly the same as the 3366? I won't be buying this so I want to know for future reference biggrin.gif
post #166 of 371
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Oh just a curious question, anyone who owns this do you feel the 3360 is exactly the same as the 3366? I won't be buying this so I want to know for future reference biggrin.gif

You'll have to wait until the Guru's get to testing it out to really really know i suppose. As far as for me it was solid & responsive, i hve played heavily the last 2 days with the mouse & have had no issues getting my crosshair where i need it to be. The sensor performs cleanly, is it good as Logitechs implementation i have 0 clue, maybe not? Lol

I do know i read that the 50G of accel in the 700 is more than what logitech has which i think was 15? Or 10? Somewhere around there. Even if the sensor isn't 100% on par, it is still very good to me.
post #167 of 371
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I don't know why people complain about the weight so much I was using Mamba Wireless 2015 since it came out which is looking at the website 125 grams which is close to 135 it was heavier then DeathAdder but i wondn't say it would be the reason to return...
There were many other reasons smile.gif but weight wasn't one of them. It's all a mater of time.
Because weight is a preference just like shape. If you're used to using stuff that is like 85-90g, it's a pretty staggering jump to move to something that is 135g. I know people think "it's only grams, do you even lift" but think about the context; from a 90g mouse we're talking about a mouse that is 50% heavier. Not to mention grams actually do matter when you're talking about the kinds of movements involved with mice since you aren't using your major muscles, especially if you play at a low sensitivity and are constantly moving the mouse like half a foot or more in either direction.
post #168 of 371
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Because weight is a preference just like shape. If you're used to using stuff that is like 85-90g, it's a pretty staggering jump to move to something that is 135g. I know people think "it's only grams, do you even lift" but think about the context; from a 90g mouse we're talking about a mouse that is 50% heavier. Not to mention grams actually do matter when you're talking about the kinds of movements involved with mice since you aren't using your major muscles, especially if you play at a low sensitivity and are constantly moving the mouse like half a foot or more in either direction.

True
post #169 of 371
Shape > Weight for me. My g900 has been gathering dust due to the Rival 700. Guess I like narrow "waist" mice (the middle section of the g900 is kinda fat to my hand).

As for why the mouse is packed with 3360, I remember mentioning that the 9800 sensor module for the Rival 700 is more expensive than the 3360. The original plan was to release the mouse in 3 packages, the 3360 as we have now, and the $10 more expensive 9800, and 3360 with included 9800 bundle. Guess they run into some stock issues and there's only the 3360 version now. The optional backpiece (glossy and rubber-coated) is not available except for the few first sample pieces to reviewers.

In the end I think Steelseries marketing team thinks that 9800 will sell as an "upgrade" to the 3360 since moar dpi = better.


post #170 of 371
Well i hope it works out for them.....not.
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