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ThreadHyping sounds better biggrin.gif
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Whoever thinks we'll get 380 class gpu on a APU, must be smoking some seriously bad stuff.

It's not gonna happen. Even if they manage to slap a gpu that big, there is still issue with thermals, power and most importantly: BANDWIDTH.

HBM on apus ain't happening anytime soon. thumb.gif
At least not on ones your average @themisseble will buy.
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HBM APU's have been on the roadmap for a long time..
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I wish these new APUs would be 8-core based. These paired with a descrete Radeon GPU would be the ideal scenario.
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The clock on the Fury X is currently 1050MHz, and 500MHz on the memory:



https://www.techpowerup.com/gpudb/2677/radeon-r9-fury-x.html

So 850MHz would be lower, and 500MHz would be exactly the same. Besides this fact, is that the card doesn't overclock well at all even with unlocked voltage:



Nano thermal throttles, APUs are for low cost budget builds, and the "wraith cooler" has yet to be implemented (even though I don't see how this helps improve sales), and what specific non-consumer SoC products are you talking about exactly, the G-Series?

SoC builds in the private sector like PS4 and XB1, more than certain other companies scouted them for similar tech in blade servers and it's just NDA.
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Can't honestly speak for newer results but last I'd checked Jaguar was faster than the equivalent Atoms.

Indeed, it was at least on par. It's comical to hear that AMD got all those console contracts in their kitty because their hardware was cheaper, except GCN was, and is, a much better architecture than Kepler and jaguar cores were no slouch either compared to the competition.
    
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I wish these new APUs would be 8-core based. These paired with a descrete Radeon GPU would be the ideal scenario.

Why 8 cores? Not much room for iGPu then.

AMD started wrong when they forced APU for gaming. APU is idealo for photo editing, rendering etc. ... , but bad optimization. Now AMDS is optimizing, pushing HBM, HSA. That could be a killer APU for work. All they need to do is large die APU with at least 4 ZEN cores, a lot of GCN 4.0 cores and HBM2 8GB+. What they need to do is to optimize most of software to run on HSA. Even if that chip would be very expensive could be best choice for work.

YOu can clearly see how well does 7850K do against i5 4670K in Adobe photoshop.

AMD mentioned that they will support CUDA... I want to see that too.
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HBM APU's have been on the roadmap for a long time..
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Why 8 cores? Not much room for iGPu then.

AMD started wrong when they forced APU for gaming. APU is idealo for photo editing, rendering etc. ... , but bad optimization. Now AMDS is optimizing, pushing HBM, HSA. That could be a killer APU for work. All they need to do is large die APU with at least 4 ZEN cores, a lot of GCN 4.0 cores and HBM2 8GB+. What they need to do is to optimize most of software to run on HSA. Even if that chip would be very expensive could be best choice for work.

YOu can clearly see how well does 7850K do against i5 4670K in Adobe photoshop.

AMD mentioned that they will support CUDA... I want to see that too.

So much optimization, it hurts.

Amd never said they will support cuda. They will just ease porting cuda code to opencl. Big difference
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So much optimization, it hurts.

Amd never said they will support cuda. They will just ease porting cuda code to opencl. Big difference

Ouch, my mistake.
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